dilipcr
06-11 07:49 PM
"Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. "
i am not interested in giving red or blue dots but i do hope your citizenship application gets stuck in a processing delay, you too will then realize the implication of your so called Darwinian flush :rolleyes: As they say...when it happens to others its a recession, when it happens to you it turns into a depression...good luck..
I hope your post did not imply that the ones who got GC's were the 'brightest and the best'.
My intention was not to devalue the merits of the incoming batch of immigrants. As I said, around 20% of the group are truly the best and the brightest. This was the case after the dotcom crash and will most likely be the case going forward. We had the same delays, retrogressions , guaranteed employment verification RFEs etc. Immigrationportal.com used to be the immigrationvoice of the times. I do not see much difference for the techies between what was then and what is going on now in terms of delays. I see 2 dramatic changes though
1. People arent patient enough during these times. You would agree to the amount of venting going on in this site.
2. The incessant dumping of low cost of L1s by the outsourcing companies.
If you think through deeply, the second point is what is causing all the heartburn among the people waiting for their GCs. Believe me. All these extrapolated timelines that scream that getting GC today would take 10 years are all bogus. These headlines were the same then too. I can confidently say that the GC process will move fast within a year's time once the layoffs stop. It is just that can you survive till the govt policies become more rational ? That is where the argument about the best and the brightest come into place. If you are one, you would survive this and you will get your GC within 3 years. Honestly, my ntention was to calm the nerves of those people genuinely talented and waiting for their GCs. If I had missed out on that count, I think I should improve my communication. The arwinian flush was just to highlight that fact.
i am not interested in giving red or blue dots but i do hope your citizenship application gets stuck in a processing delay, you too will then realize the implication of your so called Darwinian flush :rolleyes: As they say...when it happens to others its a recession, when it happens to you it turns into a depression...good luck..
I hope your post did not imply that the ones who got GC's were the 'brightest and the best'.
My intention was not to devalue the merits of the incoming batch of immigrants. As I said, around 20% of the group are truly the best and the brightest. This was the case after the dotcom crash and will most likely be the case going forward. We had the same delays, retrogressions , guaranteed employment verification RFEs etc. Immigrationportal.com used to be the immigrationvoice of the times. I do not see much difference for the techies between what was then and what is going on now in terms of delays. I see 2 dramatic changes though
1. People arent patient enough during these times. You would agree to the amount of venting going on in this site.
2. The incessant dumping of low cost of L1s by the outsourcing companies.
If you think through deeply, the second point is what is causing all the heartburn among the people waiting for their GCs. Believe me. All these extrapolated timelines that scream that getting GC today would take 10 years are all bogus. These headlines were the same then too. I can confidently say that the GC process will move fast within a year's time once the layoffs stop. It is just that can you survive till the govt policies become more rational ? That is where the argument about the best and the brightest come into place. If you are one, you would survive this and you will get your GC within 3 years. Honestly, my ntention was to calm the nerves of those people genuinely talented and waiting for their GCs. If I had missed out on that count, I think I should improve my communication. The arwinian flush was just to highlight that fact.
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rajsenthil
09-04 12:24 PM
1. Rasu Devan
2. Kenkai ammal
3. Gandhi mathi (lady only).
Please all do pray for the poor souls.
My condolence to them. But I beg to differ that people dying unnecessarily is not a good sign of development.
Let their soul rest in peace.
Edited: Ooops, I think misread your post.
2. Kenkai ammal
3. Gandhi mathi (lady only).
Please all do pray for the poor souls.
My condolence to them. But I beg to differ that people dying unnecessarily is not a good sign of development.
Let their soul rest in peace.
Edited: Ooops, I think misread your post.
thepaew
12-13 04:49 PM
Last I checked, the US was a sovereign country and is not under the jurisdiction of any international court. It is not even a member of the ICJ and this issue is not covered under WTO. Good Luck. :-)
Yes, we should explore this more
1) Whether we can really challenge this into US SC within US Constitutional
framework?
2) Whether we can really challenge this into International Courts?
Yes, we should explore this more
1) Whether we can really challenge this into US SC within US Constitutional
framework?
2) Whether we can really challenge this into International Courts?
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Jerrome
05-12 01:33 PM
Can I ask a question - tangential, maybe, but not by much. Why do Tamils have such a problem assimilating? Why don't they learn the local language and respect the local culture when they immigrate? Their motto seems to be "In Rome, be a Raman".
And the opposite is true when people speaking other languages settle in Tamil majority areas - they are, dare I say, forced to integrate, because that is the only way one can manage to live on a day-to-day basis. Would Tamils ever allow a non-Tamil minority to gain even a tiny foothold in their areas where the Tamil writ would not run? I doubt it.
Note that I am a firm believer of learning and respecting the local culture and integration. One does have a 'right' to propagate one's own language and culture, but they lose that right substantially when they emigrate to an alien land - whether it is within the same country or not.
To extend the logic, when we (mostly people of Indian origin in this group, I would assume) immigrate to the US, while we may try to conserve our heritage in private, we cannot impose it on the locals. That is when you end up creating ill-will against immigrants among the native population. America has been a great melting-pot, and has had great success assimilating great waves of immigrants from various countries including Italy, Ireland, Scandinavia, Germany etc, and the reason it succeeded was that in a couple of generations, there was total integration into the American culture. We owe it to our adopted country to do the same.
Don't bring this flavor to the discussions. Do you know 25% of population in Tamilnadu are telugu speaking people.
Previous CM(MGR) was a keralite, MS Jayalailtha is a kanadika, Superstar Rajinikanth is a Kanadika, Mr vijaykanth is a Andhraite.
It is true that tamilians have high respect for their culture and identity so as everyone in the world. Even now the jews practice their culture and language here, are they getting discriminated for doing that? The problem arises when anyone is discriminated for some reasons.
Tamils in SL were not emigrated they were there for past 2000 years or so.
And the opposite is true when people speaking other languages settle in Tamil majority areas - they are, dare I say, forced to integrate, because that is the only way one can manage to live on a day-to-day basis. Would Tamils ever allow a non-Tamil minority to gain even a tiny foothold in their areas where the Tamil writ would not run? I doubt it.
Note that I am a firm believer of learning and respecting the local culture and integration. One does have a 'right' to propagate one's own language and culture, but they lose that right substantially when they emigrate to an alien land - whether it is within the same country or not.
To extend the logic, when we (mostly people of Indian origin in this group, I would assume) immigrate to the US, while we may try to conserve our heritage in private, we cannot impose it on the locals. That is when you end up creating ill-will against immigrants among the native population. America has been a great melting-pot, and has had great success assimilating great waves of immigrants from various countries including Italy, Ireland, Scandinavia, Germany etc, and the reason it succeeded was that in a couple of generations, there was total integration into the American culture. We owe it to our adopted country to do the same.
Don't bring this flavor to the discussions. Do you know 25% of population in Tamilnadu are telugu speaking people.
Previous CM(MGR) was a keralite, MS Jayalailtha is a kanadika, Superstar Rajinikanth is a Kanadika, Mr vijaykanth is a Andhraite.
It is true that tamilians have high respect for their culture and identity so as everyone in the world. Even now the jews practice their culture and language here, are they getting discriminated for doing that? The problem arises when anyone is discriminated for some reasons.
Tamils in SL were not emigrated they were there for past 2000 years or so.
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Michael chertoff
01-13 05:56 PM
Ahh my friend Ron if you are trying to get me to feel bad with your statement i guess no one cares for u.... then all i can say is Better Luck Next Time
I dont care if anyone cares for me or not peronally or w.r.t. what i have stated in this forum.
If people abuse that is their problem not mine. Sure i wil lfeel bad but it would be feeling bad for them not feel bad :P
If people do not agree with me that is also ok since that is their right
If people do not care for what i am saying that is also ok because the whle idea is that people on thsi forum start thinking about all options (Out of te box solutions)
And seriopusly my friend if my intention was to convert or sway a whole bunch of people (Which i have no Intention of doing) within a day that would not be much of a challenge right ? because nothing comes for free (read that as without effort) in this country. I believe that is one of the slogans of IV. And guys i just borrowed it so dont hit on me saying i am now using IV slogans for myself
Peace ...
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I dont care if anyone cares for me or not peronally or w.r.t. what i have stated in this forum.
If people abuse that is their problem not mine. Sure i wil lfeel bad but it would be feeling bad for them not feel bad :P
If people do not agree with me that is also ok since that is their right
If people do not care for what i am saying that is also ok because the whle idea is that people on thsi forum start thinking about all options (Out of te box solutions)
And seriopusly my friend if my intention was to convert or sway a whole bunch of people (Which i have no Intention of doing) within a day that would not be much of a challenge right ? because nothing comes for free (read that as without effort) in this country. I believe that is one of the slogans of IV. And guys i just borrowed it so dont hit on me saying i am now using IV slogans for myself
Peace ...
My friend ..I care for you.
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alterego
12-21 05:18 PM
albertpinto,
I agree that it is not going to be easy - but I don't see any other way.
It is easy to throw numbers - 200K, 500K waiting, 750K apps received etc. etc., but unless there is evidence to back it up, these numbers mean nothing. What is our answer to a Senator who asks how many people are waiting in line Eb category? And what is the source of that data?
How else can we estimate how much money we are paying every year in taxes and contributing to the growth of the economy? Or, how many really intend to buy a house on receipt of the Green Card?
Perhaps we can think of some other strategy to arrive at some concrete numbers - but I sincerely don't think a database of anonymous unverifiable members is of much use. By the way, when I said verifiable, I meant that if a representative from a senators office were to randomly call a number from the database, he would find a legal immigrant at the other end who is trying to find his way through this process.
I like the idea of a temporary green card - there has been talk about it in the forums in the past. We could also consider pitching the idea of "expedited/early evaluation/adjudication", of the I-485, for a fee. The main point could be:
- For a fee, you will know for sure whether all your paperwork/interview work is complete, the case has been adjudicated, and your application is waiting only for a visa umber.
- Once the case is adjudicated - the USCIS sends you a letter that it is complete. Now can do almost anything with your EAD/AP - work for any employer, any field, any state, study, start a business etc.
The USCIS can define the criteria for accepting cases for early evaluation, such as:
- PD older than 3 years
- Buying a house etc.
- Attempting to start a business, changing job, going back to school to enhance skills etc.
Any other thoughts, any one?
In my view that sets the bar too low for us. You can never get any certainty with an EAD/AP, with a green card one is considered a "probationary American". With this sort of request, there will be a "probationary period to probationary citizenship".
At this juncture, if you are in a secure job and can hold that job, especially if other jobs depend on yours, and feel secure enough to buy a home in this country, you are a tremendous asset to this country at this time.......period.
The skills, savings mentality, strong family values, capital and international contacts that we possess are a net plus to this country.
I have not come to this country to beg for anything, I have come to benefit myself while benefiting America. There are synergies here for us and any fair minded person will see this. Only narrow minded people who have a zero sum mindset eg Lou Dobbs can't see this. If an EB5 investor, a spouse of a citizen, and other categories can get a green card right away, why would a similar option not be afforded someone who will in a substantially tangible way benefit the economy near and long term. The American public will embrace this if presented to them in the appropriate way.
I agree that it is not going to be easy - but I don't see any other way.
It is easy to throw numbers - 200K, 500K waiting, 750K apps received etc. etc., but unless there is evidence to back it up, these numbers mean nothing. What is our answer to a Senator who asks how many people are waiting in line Eb category? And what is the source of that data?
How else can we estimate how much money we are paying every year in taxes and contributing to the growth of the economy? Or, how many really intend to buy a house on receipt of the Green Card?
Perhaps we can think of some other strategy to arrive at some concrete numbers - but I sincerely don't think a database of anonymous unverifiable members is of much use. By the way, when I said verifiable, I meant that if a representative from a senators office were to randomly call a number from the database, he would find a legal immigrant at the other end who is trying to find his way through this process.
I like the idea of a temporary green card - there has been talk about it in the forums in the past. We could also consider pitching the idea of "expedited/early evaluation/adjudication", of the I-485, for a fee. The main point could be:
- For a fee, you will know for sure whether all your paperwork/interview work is complete, the case has been adjudicated, and your application is waiting only for a visa umber.
- Once the case is adjudicated - the USCIS sends you a letter that it is complete. Now can do almost anything with your EAD/AP - work for any employer, any field, any state, study, start a business etc.
The USCIS can define the criteria for accepting cases for early evaluation, such as:
- PD older than 3 years
- Buying a house etc.
- Attempting to start a business, changing job, going back to school to enhance skills etc.
Any other thoughts, any one?
In my view that sets the bar too low for us. You can never get any certainty with an EAD/AP, with a green card one is considered a "probationary American". With this sort of request, there will be a "probationary period to probationary citizenship".
At this juncture, if you are in a secure job and can hold that job, especially if other jobs depend on yours, and feel secure enough to buy a home in this country, you are a tremendous asset to this country at this time.......period.
The skills, savings mentality, strong family values, capital and international contacts that we possess are a net plus to this country.
I have not come to this country to beg for anything, I have come to benefit myself while benefiting America. There are synergies here for us and any fair minded person will see this. Only narrow minded people who have a zero sum mindset eg Lou Dobbs can't see this. If an EB5 investor, a spouse of a citizen, and other categories can get a green card right away, why would a similar option not be afforded someone who will in a substantially tangible way benefit the economy near and long term. The American public will embrace this if presented to them in the appropriate way.
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poorslumdog
08-18 11:33 PM
sorry, I love preaching.
by the way I was referring to "the guy who thinks americans think he is a slumdog...." not you or everyone. But then again you think that I think that you lead a life lower than average. If you think you agreed with me, instead of calling it obvious being defensive and, just agree with me. OK? And get that chip off your shoulder as well.
I think you think too much...by the way this is how you communicate in your office. American would think twice even come near to you...Good defence...:D
by the way I was referring to "the guy who thinks americans think he is a slumdog...." not you or everyone. But then again you think that I think that you lead a life lower than average. If you think you agreed with me, instead of calling it obvious being defensive and, just agree with me. OK? And get that chip off your shoulder as well.
I think you think too much...by the way this is how you communicate in your office. American would think twice even come near to you...Good defence...:D
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chanduv23
02-13 11:50 AM
We have three now and atleast 8 who supported this issue on the thread
I would be the happiest person seeing this :)
Lets add a poll - we want honest takers on this poll.
Thread starter - please post a poll
I would be the happiest person seeing this :)
Lets add a poll - we want honest takers on this poll.
Thread starter - please post a poll
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syzygy
02-12 10:31 PM
This is only way to set things in order. Number of people stuck in retrogression today due to USCIS misdeeds is much larger than few years back when Rajiv Khanna lost the lawsuit. And old results shouldn't hold fresh efforts.
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shiankuraaf
09-14 11:40 PM
This a very optimistic prediction....
i think .. most with PD of jan 2005 and earlier will get their GC ..thus in OCT VB the dates will pull back a bit..maybe mid 2004...so first qtr will be bad news for anyone with a PD after jan 2005,...but the 2nd and 3rd qtr.. the dates will be definitely be in mid 2006.
my 1/4 cent
What I expect is, with the pre-adjudication USCIS has the approvable numbers in hand and all the Visa numbers for the 1 st quarter will be released and consumed immediatly by the pre-adjudicated cases and then in Nov bulletin it will be 'U' and again in Dec it would move couple of weeks or most probably a month to consume the querterly spill over if that exists. I do not think there will be any retro for EB2 India in coming 2 quarters unless there are too many new labour approvals giving chance to file AOS with later PDs or EB3 to EB2 porting.
My 1 cent.
i think .. most with PD of jan 2005 and earlier will get their GC ..thus in OCT VB the dates will pull back a bit..maybe mid 2004...so first qtr will be bad news for anyone with a PD after jan 2005,...but the 2nd and 3rd qtr.. the dates will be definitely be in mid 2006.
my 1/4 cent
What I expect is, with the pre-adjudication USCIS has the approvable numbers in hand and all the Visa numbers for the 1 st quarter will be released and consumed immediatly by the pre-adjudicated cases and then in Nov bulletin it will be 'U' and again in Dec it would move couple of weeks or most probably a month to consume the querterly spill over if that exists. I do not think there will be any retro for EB2 India in coming 2 quarters unless there are too many new labour approvals giving chance to file AOS with later PDs or EB3 to EB2 porting.
My 1 cent.
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snram4
01-18 10:16 AM
It is true.They were implemented stirctly. But to cheat that many of bodyshoppers are creating fake Paystubs. Getting just payroll expenses and tax from consultant and creating paystubs. How do you prevent that? When good faith effort fails more and more regulations are coming. If our bodyshoppers are honest there would have no regulations like that.
All your relatives are like you only...just plain dump.:D The salary on bench is already stricly enforced. First they asked for end client verification. Now employer-employee verification. First they should fix the backlog for GC.
All your relatives are like you only...just plain dump.:D The salary on bench is already stricly enforced. First they asked for end client verification. Now employer-employee verification. First they should fix the backlog for GC.
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snathan
08-16 05:58 PM
SK2006 and snathan:
I do not agree.
First, there is no "profiling" in India. Everyone gets frisked and security at airports in India is top class. Problem with US is "only select" people get frisked most often based on their skin color or names. This is a fact. I am a frequent flyer consultant , I have observed this many many times.
Second, Indians are doing what they are supposed to do. first, they show respect to dignitaries by not frisking or not stripping robert gates, george clooney or bill clinton or any other dignitary from any other country. Americans are not doing what they are supposed to do.
When geroge fernandes was stripped , he had a diplomatic passport. Everyone knows he was defence minister and there was a delegation with him. Secondly, abdul kalam was frisked, which I feel is also negligence of Indian authorities not to be assertive.
So Indians are not doing their job by not being assertive and taking care of its own citizens. and not pressing for their own rights,
I do not feel so bad about Shahrukh, although I think it is profiling, as I do for fernandez and kalam.
This is nothing but profiling and some stupid hot headed mentality. Let there be frisking of americans and stripping of them at Indian airports. Will americans accept it? If not why should Indians not make noise about it?
Rules are rules, provided they apply equally to americans and Indians. otherwise its profiling or discrimination.
My point is Indians do not have the balls to do it. Forget americans....they can not even touch an indian MP. Every day lots common people going through this security check. Whats so special about SRK. He is king only in his mind/heart. For lot of people he is crap. No special treatment. Whats the big deal if he is detained for 1 hr. The world is not going to end
I do not agree.
First, there is no "profiling" in India. Everyone gets frisked and security at airports in India is top class. Problem with US is "only select" people get frisked most often based on their skin color or names. This is a fact. I am a frequent flyer consultant , I have observed this many many times.
Second, Indians are doing what they are supposed to do. first, they show respect to dignitaries by not frisking or not stripping robert gates, george clooney or bill clinton or any other dignitary from any other country. Americans are not doing what they are supposed to do.
When geroge fernandes was stripped , he had a diplomatic passport. Everyone knows he was defence minister and there was a delegation with him. Secondly, abdul kalam was frisked, which I feel is also negligence of Indian authorities not to be assertive.
So Indians are not doing their job by not being assertive and taking care of its own citizens. and not pressing for their own rights,
I do not feel so bad about Shahrukh, although I think it is profiling, as I do for fernandez and kalam.
This is nothing but profiling and some stupid hot headed mentality. Let there be frisking of americans and stripping of them at Indian airports. Will americans accept it? If not why should Indians not make noise about it?
Rules are rules, provided they apply equally to americans and Indians. otherwise its profiling or discrimination.
My point is Indians do not have the balls to do it. Forget americans....they can not even touch an indian MP. Every day lots common people going through this security check. Whats so special about SRK. He is king only in his mind/heart. For lot of people he is crap. No special treatment. Whats the big deal if he is detained for 1 hr. The world is not going to end
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DSLStart
09-23 11:44 AM
Current homeowners who are waiting for their GC MUST also be exempted from cap. This clause has to be there. Without having any gurantee of getting GC these folks have invested their savings in buying home even when the prices were high, WHY because they had real intent of making US their permanent home. So these people should too be exempted from EB cap.
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rsdang1
10-16 11:42 AM
Guys,
I understand this is a simple estimate but - if and its a big if - it works then it would be a great Diwali gift for all EB2 folks and subsequently open spill over for EB3... Keep the faith...
I understand this is a simple estimate but - if and its a big if - it works then it would be a great Diwali gift for all EB2 folks and subsequently open spill over for EB3... Keep the faith...
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small2006
08-18 06:41 PM
You are so wrong here...its not about growing balls or Americans getting frisked in Indian airports.
It is SRK's BIG EGO that was hurt, the fact that the officer did not "recognize" SRK - the "king khan" and made him go through a rough ordeal. That is all it is about. And to me SRK has never been an honest human being. It is all a put on appearance, whether its in his movies or real life. He is very measured and guarded when talking to the media and presents his affable side. So get over it and look at the incident for what it is - i.e, SRK's big ego burst open. Its not about American security or Indian security or racial profiling. Everyone is just trying to make it out to be that but you need to be able to see thorugh that.
When a person of Dr Kalam's stature did not even talk about his experience with Continental until months later, who the heck is SRK to make it out to be such a big deal? What is his achievement and/or contribution to the country after all? Making loads of money? Buying houses in London and Dubai?? Give me a freakin' break.
simply racial profiling.
i dont think SRK is over reacting.. many desis who are accepting that its a way of life suffer from "Slave Mentality".
When was the last time.. a US diplomat or US socialite was frisked and detained for 2 hrs in indian airports?
To all the jocks who argue "its part of life"..my advise grow some balls and realize one thing.. no matter how long u live here.. no matter whether u have GC or PC...u will always be treated like third class citizens.
In the end its the color.. do you know beta.
for the record.i am no SRK fan.
Mamooty.. who is he?
It is SRK's BIG EGO that was hurt, the fact that the officer did not "recognize" SRK - the "king khan" and made him go through a rough ordeal. That is all it is about. And to me SRK has never been an honest human being. It is all a put on appearance, whether its in his movies or real life. He is very measured and guarded when talking to the media and presents his affable side. So get over it and look at the incident for what it is - i.e, SRK's big ego burst open. Its not about American security or Indian security or racial profiling. Everyone is just trying to make it out to be that but you need to be able to see thorugh that.
When a person of Dr Kalam's stature did not even talk about his experience with Continental until months later, who the heck is SRK to make it out to be such a big deal? What is his achievement and/or contribution to the country after all? Making loads of money? Buying houses in London and Dubai?? Give me a freakin' break.
simply racial profiling.
i dont think SRK is over reacting.. many desis who are accepting that its a way of life suffer from "Slave Mentality".
When was the last time.. a US diplomat or US socialite was frisked and detained for 2 hrs in indian airports?
To all the jocks who argue "its part of life"..my advise grow some balls and realize one thing.. no matter how long u live here.. no matter whether u have GC or PC...u will always be treated like third class citizens.
In the end its the color.. do you know beta.
for the record.i am no SRK fan.
Mamooty.. who is he?
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unitednations
02-13 03:57 PM
Out of those 400K ....200K happen to be India/China...
Today's projection for me EB3/India is 7-10 years to get GC....
with a higher number this would come doen to 2 years ( would it ???)..That is the whole game...EB3 India might not become current but at least EB3 ROW would be current and then the spillover would make EB3 India picture much better....
Also AC21 allows the spillover to happen quarterly rather than annully...not in the fourth quarter..( Please correct me if I am wrong..)
Reference
http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/8usc/www/t8-12-II-I-1152.html#_a_
Look at a(3)
(3) Exception if additional visas available
If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 1153 of this title for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.
This is why I mean USCIS/DOS was lazy. If there is total visas for the year (hypothetical 160,000). then only 40,000 are available by quarter. If there is 50,000 applications in the que then there is retrogression. Remember if there is more demand then what can be approved by quarter then retrogression.
So what this means is that if there is 400,000 approved I-140's but only 300,000 greencards then 7% limit would apply because there are more people in the que then what can be approved by quarter. Therefore, ROW people would still be able to file throughout the year and then whatever is left in the fourth quarter that ROW hasn't used then it would spillover. Therefore, it would still give ROW people to continue filing and taking the visas while the 7% countires have to sit and wait for breadcrumbs until the fourth quarter.
Today's projection for me EB3/India is 7-10 years to get GC....
with a higher number this would come doen to 2 years ( would it ???)..That is the whole game...EB3 India might not become current but at least EB3 ROW would be current and then the spillover would make EB3 India picture much better....
Also AC21 allows the spillover to happen quarterly rather than annully...not in the fourth quarter..( Please correct me if I am wrong..)
Reference
http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/8usc/www/t8-12-II-I-1152.html#_a_
Look at a(3)
(3) Exception if additional visas available
If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 1153 of this title for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.
This is why I mean USCIS/DOS was lazy. If there is total visas for the year (hypothetical 160,000). then only 40,000 are available by quarter. If there is 50,000 applications in the que then there is retrogression. Remember if there is more demand then what can be approved by quarter then retrogression.
So what this means is that if there is 400,000 approved I-140's but only 300,000 greencards then 7% limit would apply because there are more people in the que then what can be approved by quarter. Therefore, ROW people would still be able to file throughout the year and then whatever is left in the fourth quarter that ROW hasn't used then it would spillover. Therefore, it would still give ROW people to continue filing and taking the visas while the 7% countires have to sit and wait for breadcrumbs until the fourth quarter.
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MYGC2008
09-17 12:22 PM
Here is what I want to understand.
EB2 ROW is CURRENT except INDIA AND CHINA. EB2 ROW will get 28.6% of 140000.
This means 40040. How they are going to divide these visa between INDIA and CHINA?
This is NOT SpillOver. I know there is 7% rule, but other countries are always Current.
And EB1 is CURRENT and considering Bad economy very few cases will be filed under EB1.
What will happen to those 40040 Visa? If those spillover to EB2 ROW, we may see a large quantity of Visa numbers for EB2.
Considering 50% of each EB1 and EB2 visas consumed by other than INDIA AND CHINA, still we should get aroud 40040 visas this year.If you furher divide 50% between INDIA and CHINA, both will get 20020, Which might be sufficient to cross 2005.
EB2 ROW is CURRENT except INDIA AND CHINA. EB2 ROW will get 28.6% of 140000.
This means 40040. How they are going to divide these visa between INDIA and CHINA?
This is NOT SpillOver. I know there is 7% rule, but other countries are always Current.
And EB1 is CURRENT and considering Bad economy very few cases will be filed under EB1.
What will happen to those 40040 Visa? If those spillover to EB2 ROW, we may see a large quantity of Visa numbers for EB2.
Considering 50% of each EB1 and EB2 visas consumed by other than INDIA AND CHINA, still we should get aroud 40040 visas this year.If you furher divide 50% between INDIA and CHINA, both will get 20020, Which might be sufficient to cross 2005.
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GCmuddu_H1BVaddu
09-12 09:13 PM
Hey _TrueFacts,
Will you stop the caste based shit here. F**k you a** yourself idiot. You are so called senior member shitting here idiot.
Last nail in YSR�s coffin
Jagan gets 3 choices: DyCM, mantri, PCC (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Jagan-gets-3-choices-DyCM-mantri-PCC/articleshow/4997385.cms)
Will you stop the caste based shit here. F**k you a** yourself idiot. You are so called senior member shitting here idiot.
Last nail in YSR�s coffin
Jagan gets 3 choices: DyCM, mantri, PCC (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Jagan-gets-3-choices-DyCM-mantri-PCC/articleshow/4997385.cms)
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_TrueFacts
09-28 09:11 PM
Assets gained by YSR in his 5 years as Ex Chief Minister
• Raheja Corporation land allocation for Infrastructure ( 200 acres in first phase and 300 acres in second phase)- EX CM’s son gets 50 percent share
• 500 acres in the 1000 acres allocation to Gangavaram port
• Brahmani Steels investment – Rs.40,000 crore - EX CM’s son gets 50 percent stake
• Indu and Brahmani Infotech companies get 250 acres with 50 percent stake to EX CM’s son.
• Rs.3500 crore investment for a six million tones Cement factory at Kamalapuram in Kadapa district.
• Rs.6000 crore Hydro electric project -1200 MW in Sikkim– EX CM son gets 50 per cent stake
• 1000 acres bought in and around Bangalore- land cost Rs.Three crore per acre.
• Rs.250 crore commercial complex on Bannerghatta Roadin Bangalore
• 25 acres land in Hyderabad, Kukkapally Housing Board location.
• 90 acres in benami bought in IT corridor area of Gacchibowli .
• 151 acres of granite mining lands in Prakasam district ,Cheemakurthi ( world famous for its black and gold granite stone ) in benami company ( Gimpex ).
• Mauritiusshell companies 2 I Capital , Flury Emerging Capital purchase 125 crore worth shares in Sandur Power Ltd –
• Benami subsidiaries : Bhagavat Sannidhi, Carmel Asia Holdings, Harish Infra, Classic Realty, Janani Infra,Marvel Infra ,SiliconBuilders, Capstain Infra, Shalome Infra, Inspire Hotels
• Purchase of Assigned lands -1000 acres in Kandur village and 500 acres in Chitwel villageof Kadapadistrict .
• Sakshi , newspaper with EX CM’s son as chairman with investment of Rs.600 crore.
1. 40 companies from Kolkatta, Gujarat, Chennai, Bangalore,Maharashtrainvest in Sakshi venture
2. Such unheard of investments from all over Indiain a Telugu news paper venture .
3. Two investors in Sakshi - Artilians Bioinnovations and Stocknet International listed in global stock markets- the share priced at less than Rs. One and promoters stake only 0.3 percent
4. But both companies pay premium of Rs.350 for Sakshi scrips .
5. All companies which invested in Sakshi and Jagati publications get Government projects – Vanpic,SEZ,Mining licenses.
6. Price Waterhouse Cooper ( PwC) of Satyam Computers Scam fame are auditors of Jagati Publications.
7. PwC certifies that Sakshi has a circulation of 12 lakhs daily to beget Govt Ads .
8. AP Govt giving Ads to Sakshi without ABC certificates.
• Ex EX CM’s son has 50 percent stake in Rs.1200 crore 3000 MW power project in Arunachal Pradesh in collaboration with the AP Genco and M/s Athena Power energy and Ventures pvt Ltd .
• Tandla Solutions , another benami unit of EX CM’s son purchased 250 acres in Ranga Reddy district with an investment of Rs.500 crore.
Illegal occupation of thousands of acres in Kadapa District
• Though owned only 120 acres in Idupulapaya Estate EX CM family grabbed over 1000 acres and built a compound wall .All these lands belonged to assigned lands of poor, tank bed lands, temple lands, forest lands and even roads .
• 1000 acres in Kondur village and 500 acres in Chitwel village in illegal occupation of EX CM’s family.
• Bungalow constructed at Pulivendula over 5 acres land at a cost of Rs.Three crore.
Y.S.Vivekananda Reddy
• Chief Ministers brother and Ex MP from Kadapa constructed a complex over 2000 sq yard land in front of HitechCityin Madhapur worth Rs.25 crore belonging to Ghatkesar Gurukul Trust and rented to a software company .
Y V Subba Reddy
• Buillt a Hydro project on Tungabhadra river near Rajolibanda diversion location and affected drinking water source for Mahbubnagar district .
• Encroached 1000 sq yards of Jublee enclave of Jaibheri in the name of Swarnalatha Reddy and illegal lay out approved over surplus land declared .
YSR brother Sudhikar Reddy ( son-in-law of C C Reddy , Govt Advisor)
• He is a partner in a project for mining Illuminate mineral extraction from beach sand in North coastal Andhra coast in collaboration with an Switzerlandcompany Bothlitrade Inc .
B. Yuvaraj Reddy (YS cousin)
• Reports of embezzlement of Rs. 2.60 Crore in the Yuvraj Chit funds by Yuvraj Reddy.
Ravindranath Reddy, brother-in law of YS
• Tried to grab farm lands in Denduluru villageof West Godavaridistrict in the name of setting up a fertilizer factory .
• He was instrumental in getting the irrigation contract of Sarvarayasagar-Vamikonda -Galeru nagari second phase works to IVRCL through Gamon India ltd.
• Encroached 3084 sq.ds of land in Survey No 67 of Madhapur ( IT corridor ) , regularization as landof Kothagudainstead of Madhapur.
EX CM’s relatives (Biradari)
• Four acres of land worth Rs. 50 crore in Pokkalavada of Manikonda in Rajendranagar Mandal of R R District given to close relatives of YS in the name of Genus Sajarath Ministries for setting up a Orphanage and Old age home, prayer hall and recreation at a lease of just Rs. 40,000 per annum for 33 years .
• Relatives Y S Madhusudhan Reddy, Venugopal Reddy , Pratap Reddy grab 3.15 acres of land valued at Rs.15 crore in survey no 682/4.684/4, 700/2 near S V Subba Reddy college in Kadapa town
.
Outer ring Road scam
• Bharati Reddy ( wife of EX CM’s elder brother )
1. Bought 8.35 acres in Kolluru in 2005 September in survey no 148 and paid Rs.35.5 lakhs but now valued at Rs.13 crore.
• Y V Subba Reddy – Relative
1. Two acres ( survey no 25 ) in Osman sagar
2. 68.8 acres in Survey No- 117,119,121,122,123,124,125,126,131.132.134,136,14 1 . Land valued at Rs.20 crore when closer to the ring road but now valued at Rs.125 crore after alignment of the Ring Road altered to benefit them .
• Ramasubbamma ( Another close relative)
She bought 3.28 acres in Kolluru Survey No-194/B and paid just Rs.22.20 lakhs but today valued at Rs. Six crore.
LAND GARNERED BY THE YS RELATIVES AND FAMILY IN AND AROUND OUTER RING ROAD IS 79.3 ACRES AND EXPECTED TO GAIN RS.100 CRORE.
Same story in Visakha Pharma city
• Parthasarathy Reddy, chairman of Hetero Drugs is a close associate of Chief Minister.
• Hetero Drugs could get land in Visakha Pharma city and Jedcherla Formulations SEZ at throw away prices .
• Hetero drugs later within days invested Rs.13 crores in the Jagati publications enterprise of EX CM’s son .
Ramky gets cheap land
• Aeros Project , a subsidiary of Ramky an IT company also invested Rs 7.77 crore in the Jagati Publications.
• Ramky got favors from the Government in various forms. Given land allocations in Visakha Pharma city , exempted from land taxes in the lands near Shamshabad airport . Got 19 acres from Housing board for throw away price .Blessings of the Govt in its real estate business.
Jedcherla to Jagati
• Another pharma company that benefited from investment in Jagati is Arabindo Pharma .
• The Trident Life Sciences , a subsidiary of Arabindo Pharma invested Rs.6.8 crore in Jagati publications.
• In turn it could get the Jedcherla formulations SEZ .
• Hetero drugs and Arabindo pharma are managing the Jedcherla SEZ.
Nadargul operators in Jagati:
• Potluri Hariprasad, the key architect in Nadargul land scandal has also invested Rs.48.61 crore in the Jagati publications .
• Bogus companies and benami individuals mortgaged the lands of Nadargul for a loan of Rs.800 crore.
Cement Syndicate:
• AP government favored Dalmia Cements, India Cements and Penna Cements to sell cement at Rs. 200 per bag in turn for their investments in Jagati Publications.
• Raheja Corporation land allocation for Infrastructure ( 200 acres in first phase and 300 acres in second phase)- EX CM’s son gets 50 percent share
• 500 acres in the 1000 acres allocation to Gangavaram port
• Brahmani Steels investment – Rs.40,000 crore - EX CM’s son gets 50 percent stake
• Indu and Brahmani Infotech companies get 250 acres with 50 percent stake to EX CM’s son.
• Rs.3500 crore investment for a six million tones Cement factory at Kamalapuram in Kadapa district.
• Rs.6000 crore Hydro electric project -1200 MW in Sikkim– EX CM son gets 50 per cent stake
• 1000 acres bought in and around Bangalore- land cost Rs.Three crore per acre.
• Rs.250 crore commercial complex on Bannerghatta Roadin Bangalore
• 25 acres land in Hyderabad, Kukkapally Housing Board location.
• 90 acres in benami bought in IT corridor area of Gacchibowli .
• 151 acres of granite mining lands in Prakasam district ,Cheemakurthi ( world famous for its black and gold granite stone ) in benami company ( Gimpex ).
• Mauritiusshell companies 2 I Capital , Flury Emerging Capital purchase 125 crore worth shares in Sandur Power Ltd –
• Benami subsidiaries : Bhagavat Sannidhi, Carmel Asia Holdings, Harish Infra, Classic Realty, Janani Infra,Marvel Infra ,SiliconBuilders, Capstain Infra, Shalome Infra, Inspire Hotels
• Purchase of Assigned lands -1000 acres in Kandur village and 500 acres in Chitwel villageof Kadapadistrict .
• Sakshi , newspaper with EX CM’s son as chairman with investment of Rs.600 crore.
1. 40 companies from Kolkatta, Gujarat, Chennai, Bangalore,Maharashtrainvest in Sakshi venture
2. Such unheard of investments from all over Indiain a Telugu news paper venture .
3. Two investors in Sakshi - Artilians Bioinnovations and Stocknet International listed in global stock markets- the share priced at less than Rs. One and promoters stake only 0.3 percent
4. But both companies pay premium of Rs.350 for Sakshi scrips .
5. All companies which invested in Sakshi and Jagati publications get Government projects – Vanpic,SEZ,Mining licenses.
6. Price Waterhouse Cooper ( PwC) of Satyam Computers Scam fame are auditors of Jagati Publications.
7. PwC certifies that Sakshi has a circulation of 12 lakhs daily to beget Govt Ads .
8. AP Govt giving Ads to Sakshi without ABC certificates.
• Ex EX CM’s son has 50 percent stake in Rs.1200 crore 3000 MW power project in Arunachal Pradesh in collaboration with the AP Genco and M/s Athena Power energy and Ventures pvt Ltd .
• Tandla Solutions , another benami unit of EX CM’s son purchased 250 acres in Ranga Reddy district with an investment of Rs.500 crore.
Illegal occupation of thousands of acres in Kadapa District
• Though owned only 120 acres in Idupulapaya Estate EX CM family grabbed over 1000 acres and built a compound wall .All these lands belonged to assigned lands of poor, tank bed lands, temple lands, forest lands and even roads .
• 1000 acres in Kondur village and 500 acres in Chitwel village in illegal occupation of EX CM’s family.
• Bungalow constructed at Pulivendula over 5 acres land at a cost of Rs.Three crore.
Y.S.Vivekananda Reddy
• Chief Ministers brother and Ex MP from Kadapa constructed a complex over 2000 sq yard land in front of HitechCityin Madhapur worth Rs.25 crore belonging to Ghatkesar Gurukul Trust and rented to a software company .
Y V Subba Reddy
• Buillt a Hydro project on Tungabhadra river near Rajolibanda diversion location and affected drinking water source for Mahbubnagar district .
• Encroached 1000 sq yards of Jublee enclave of Jaibheri in the name of Swarnalatha Reddy and illegal lay out approved over surplus land declared .
YSR brother Sudhikar Reddy ( son-in-law of C C Reddy , Govt Advisor)
• He is a partner in a project for mining Illuminate mineral extraction from beach sand in North coastal Andhra coast in collaboration with an Switzerlandcompany Bothlitrade Inc .
B. Yuvaraj Reddy (YS cousin)
• Reports of embezzlement of Rs. 2.60 Crore in the Yuvraj Chit funds by Yuvraj Reddy.
Ravindranath Reddy, brother-in law of YS
• Tried to grab farm lands in Denduluru villageof West Godavaridistrict in the name of setting up a fertilizer factory .
• He was instrumental in getting the irrigation contract of Sarvarayasagar-Vamikonda -Galeru nagari second phase works to IVRCL through Gamon India ltd.
• Encroached 3084 sq.ds of land in Survey No 67 of Madhapur ( IT corridor ) , regularization as landof Kothagudainstead of Madhapur.
EX CM’s relatives (Biradari)
• Four acres of land worth Rs. 50 crore in Pokkalavada of Manikonda in Rajendranagar Mandal of R R District given to close relatives of YS in the name of Genus Sajarath Ministries for setting up a Orphanage and Old age home, prayer hall and recreation at a lease of just Rs. 40,000 per annum for 33 years .
• Relatives Y S Madhusudhan Reddy, Venugopal Reddy , Pratap Reddy grab 3.15 acres of land valued at Rs.15 crore in survey no 682/4.684/4, 700/2 near S V Subba Reddy college in Kadapa town
.
Outer ring Road scam
• Bharati Reddy ( wife of EX CM’s elder brother )
1. Bought 8.35 acres in Kolluru in 2005 September in survey no 148 and paid Rs.35.5 lakhs but now valued at Rs.13 crore.
• Y V Subba Reddy – Relative
1. Two acres ( survey no 25 ) in Osman sagar
2. 68.8 acres in Survey No- 117,119,121,122,123,124,125,126,131.132.134,136,14 1 . Land valued at Rs.20 crore when closer to the ring road but now valued at Rs.125 crore after alignment of the Ring Road altered to benefit them .
• Ramasubbamma ( Another close relative)
She bought 3.28 acres in Kolluru Survey No-194/B and paid just Rs.22.20 lakhs but today valued at Rs. Six crore.
LAND GARNERED BY THE YS RELATIVES AND FAMILY IN AND AROUND OUTER RING ROAD IS 79.3 ACRES AND EXPECTED TO GAIN RS.100 CRORE.
Same story in Visakha Pharma city
• Parthasarathy Reddy, chairman of Hetero Drugs is a close associate of Chief Minister.
• Hetero Drugs could get land in Visakha Pharma city and Jedcherla Formulations SEZ at throw away prices .
• Hetero drugs later within days invested Rs.13 crores in the Jagati publications enterprise of EX CM’s son .
Ramky gets cheap land
• Aeros Project , a subsidiary of Ramky an IT company also invested Rs 7.77 crore in the Jagati Publications.
• Ramky got favors from the Government in various forms. Given land allocations in Visakha Pharma city , exempted from land taxes in the lands near Shamshabad airport . Got 19 acres from Housing board for throw away price .Blessings of the Govt in its real estate business.
Jedcherla to Jagati
• Another pharma company that benefited from investment in Jagati is Arabindo Pharma .
• The Trident Life Sciences , a subsidiary of Arabindo Pharma invested Rs.6.8 crore in Jagati publications.
• In turn it could get the Jedcherla formulations SEZ .
• Hetero drugs and Arabindo pharma are managing the Jedcherla SEZ.
Nadargul operators in Jagati:
• Potluri Hariprasad, the key architect in Nadargul land scandal has also invested Rs.48.61 crore in the Jagati publications .
• Bogus companies and benami individuals mortgaged the lands of Nadargul for a loan of Rs.800 crore.
Cement Syndicate:
• AP government favored Dalmia Cements, India Cements and Penna Cements to sell cement at Rs. 200 per bag in turn for their investments in Jagati Publications.
Ramba
05-11 07:34 PM
It is easy to spit out numbers like this. Do you have independent proof of these? Please don't point us to LTTE run web sites. Provide hard proof if you can.
As for "formerly superior Tamil competitiveness", I am sure what you refer to is, the fact that during the British period, the Tamils were given the lion's share (pardon my pun) of all the civil service and other administrative jobs as part of their divide and Rule policy. When SL gained independence of course, things changed so that formerly discriminated Sinhalese started getting their fair share of thse opportunities. Mind you that Sinhalese are after all 75% of SL. Are you saying it is fair to ask 12% of the population (SL Tamils) to have 50% of all the opportuniies and land and the resources reserved for them???
Panani,
I dont blame you for your post as you are singalese. However, don't try to hide the truth. Your post itself has the answer. British, did not discriminate the singalse. Though, they ruled India and SL, they always respected the skills and knowledge. Thatswhy, tamils were in good position before 1948. SL denied the voting rights to estate Tamils and want to keep them as slaves. 33% Tamils become 20% because of that act, apart from mass killing of Tamils by SL. SL are still doing forced/barbaric sterilization on Tamil women. The undeniable truth is SL did not want to Tamils to overtake them (pollitically, socially, economically,); though they are the natural born citizen of SL.
I certainly blame GOI, for its mercyless view on Tamils, as they are killed in India's Doorstep. I dont blame one guy saying "its shame to carry the Indian passport".
See the wikipedia It wont lie.
There is a sizable population of Tamils in the Central Province, plantation laborers brought down from India by the British colonial authorities in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. These Indian Tamils (or Estate Tamils), as they are called, still work mainly in Sri Lanka�s tea plantations. They have been locked in poverty for generations and continue to experience poor living conditions.[15] Although they speak the same language, they are usually considered a separate community from the Sri Lankan Tamils of the North and East.
The government of D.S. Senanayake passed legislation stripping the estate Tamils of their citizenship in 1949, leaving them stateless.
The effect was to tilt the island's political balance away from the Tamils. In 1948, at independence, the Tamils had 33% of the voting power in Parliament.[citation needed]. Upon the disenfranchisement of the estate Tamils, however, this proportion dropped to 20%. The Sinhalese could and did obtain more than a 2/3 majority in Parliament, making it impossible for Tamils to exercise an effective opposition to Sinhalese policies affecting them. The main reason for the imbalance was that several multi member constituencies elected a Tamil member of Parliament in a majority Sinhala electorate. The idea in having multi member constituencies was to prevent domination of minorities by a future nationalist government.
As for "formerly superior Tamil competitiveness", I am sure what you refer to is, the fact that during the British period, the Tamils were given the lion's share (pardon my pun) of all the civil service and other administrative jobs as part of their divide and Rule policy. When SL gained independence of course, things changed so that formerly discriminated Sinhalese started getting their fair share of thse opportunities. Mind you that Sinhalese are after all 75% of SL. Are you saying it is fair to ask 12% of the population (SL Tamils) to have 50% of all the opportuniies and land and the resources reserved for them???
Panani,
I dont blame you for your post as you are singalese. However, don't try to hide the truth. Your post itself has the answer. British, did not discriminate the singalse. Though, they ruled India and SL, they always respected the skills and knowledge. Thatswhy, tamils were in good position before 1948. SL denied the voting rights to estate Tamils and want to keep them as slaves. 33% Tamils become 20% because of that act, apart from mass killing of Tamils by SL. SL are still doing forced/barbaric sterilization on Tamil women. The undeniable truth is SL did not want to Tamils to overtake them (pollitically, socially, economically,); though they are the natural born citizen of SL.
I certainly blame GOI, for its mercyless view on Tamils, as they are killed in India's Doorstep. I dont blame one guy saying "its shame to carry the Indian passport".
See the wikipedia It wont lie.
There is a sizable population of Tamils in the Central Province, plantation laborers brought down from India by the British colonial authorities in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. These Indian Tamils (or Estate Tamils), as they are called, still work mainly in Sri Lanka�s tea plantations. They have been locked in poverty for generations and continue to experience poor living conditions.[15] Although they speak the same language, they are usually considered a separate community from the Sri Lankan Tamils of the North and East.
The government of D.S. Senanayake passed legislation stripping the estate Tamils of their citizenship in 1949, leaving them stateless.
The effect was to tilt the island's political balance away from the Tamils. In 1948, at independence, the Tamils had 33% of the voting power in Parliament.[citation needed]. Upon the disenfranchisement of the estate Tamils, however, this proportion dropped to 20%. The Sinhalese could and did obtain more than a 2/3 majority in Parliament, making it impossible for Tamils to exercise an effective opposition to Sinhalese policies affecting them. The main reason for the imbalance was that several multi member constituencies elected a Tamil member of Parliament in a majority Sinhala electorate. The idea in having multi member constituencies was to prevent domination of minorities by a future nationalist government.
viva
01-29 02:51 AM
pappu- i got the message. sorry, if i became overzealous. just wanted to help iv...
i will not raise any more questions asking non-contributing members to contribute.
go iv .....go core team!
i will not raise any more questions asking non-contributing members to contribute.
go iv .....go core team!