santb1975
05-17 03:00 PM
Thankyou
Hi folks, just as predicted, my email thread to select contacts resulted in one outright racist response. i dont want this group to get distracted or distressed if you too get such responses. take a look at the original note below and my response. remain brave. remain strong. this is a LEGAL immigration process in the US economic interest too.
hopefully people will begin to realize that anti-legal-immigration is just a facade for deep rooted racism.
Best.
A SELF AVOWED RACIST RESPONSE from A PERSONAL CONTACT
I have to let you know that not only will I not support this bill, but I am vehemently against the legal immigration of workers that are originally brought here to usurp positions that would have otherwise been held by skilled Americans. I agree that this is a racist and exclusionary position, but I also know many people who can no longer get work at the level they deserve due to the displacement they have experienced as a result of this foreign worker influx.
Please remove me from any future posts regarding this or related issues.
MY RESPONSE
i know how the native americans must have felt when the pilgrims landed... oh that darned foreign influx.
i will not dignify your self avowed racism with the erudition of economics, capitalism, innovation, globalization, human rights or the rich history of the united states as a melting pot of cultures ... all of which are underpinning factors that are in the long term US economic interests in high skilled LEGAL immigration. of course, these tend to be conveniently ignored on the altar of superficial sentiment, myopic protectionism and deep-rooted xenophobia.
it would be best that we not be on each others' personal contacts or have any future interaction at all.
Hi folks, just as predicted, my email thread to select contacts resulted in one outright racist response. i dont want this group to get distracted or distressed if you too get such responses. take a look at the original note below and my response. remain brave. remain strong. this is a LEGAL immigration process in the US economic interest too.
hopefully people will begin to realize that anti-legal-immigration is just a facade for deep rooted racism.
Best.
A SELF AVOWED RACIST RESPONSE from A PERSONAL CONTACT
I have to let you know that not only will I not support this bill, but I am vehemently against the legal immigration of workers that are originally brought here to usurp positions that would have otherwise been held by skilled Americans. I agree that this is a racist and exclusionary position, but I also know many people who can no longer get work at the level they deserve due to the displacement they have experienced as a result of this foreign worker influx.
Please remove me from any future posts regarding this or related issues.
MY RESPONSE
i know how the native americans must have felt when the pilgrims landed... oh that darned foreign influx.
i will not dignify your self avowed racism with the erudition of economics, capitalism, innovation, globalization, human rights or the rich history of the united states as a melting pot of cultures ... all of which are underpinning factors that are in the long term US economic interests in high skilled LEGAL immigration. of course, these tend to be conveniently ignored on the altar of superficial sentiment, myopic protectionism and deep-rooted xenophobia.
it would be best that we not be on each others' personal contacts or have any future interaction at all.
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08-04 01:45 PM
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ra088
06-14 12:53 PM
Hastert Deals Blow to Immigration Bill
By SUZANNE GAMBOA
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 13, 2006; 7:57 PM
WASHINGTON -- Hopes for a quick compromise on immigration were dealt a blow Tuesday after House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he wanted to take a "long look" at a Senate bill offering possible citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.
Hastert said hearings on the Senate bill should be held before appointing anyone to a House-Senate committee to negotiate a compromise immigration bill. Later, he said he was unsure what the House's next move would be.
The Immigration Debate
IMG ALT The Washington Post's coverage of the immigration issue, from the politics of revising the nation's immigration laws to the impact of illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border and the Washington region.
"We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
By SUZANNE GAMBOA
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 13, 2006; 7:57 PM
WASHINGTON -- Hopes for a quick compromise on immigration were dealt a blow Tuesday after House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he wanted to take a "long look" at a Senate bill offering possible citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.
Hastert said hearings on the Senate bill should be held before appointing anyone to a House-Senate committee to negotiate a compromise immigration bill. Later, he said he was unsure what the House's next move would be.
The Immigration Debate
IMG ALT The Washington Post's coverage of the immigration issue, from the politics of revising the nation's immigration laws to the impact of illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border and the Washington region.
"We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
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msyedy
02-01 09:29 PM
WaitnWatch,
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Green.Tech
04-08 09:29 PM
So now this thread has turned into a sob story of how a handful of misused EB1 visas are bad for the whole group (i am a screwed up low level EB3, i am not in competing with EB1's or 2 or 4's for that matter) ...we just need some bad guys to pin the blame on. We are loosing sight of the big picture here. We can either complain or cry or do nothing, to each his/her own. write a letter to the authorities. they will take 5 years to investigate and 10 more visas will be available to for redistribution to Eb2 from EB1, meanwhile we will create a new thread everymonth and complain how messed up the system is and how screwed up we are...:p.
...reminds me of a quote from Maya Angelou:
"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain."
Lets all get together and work for visa recapture, it is free of country and category caps, everyone will benefit.
I completely agree. Tell me how are we acting differently than the Americans blaming the foreigners for bad economy? Look at the bigger picture before pointing fingers at each other. BTW, I am not an EB-1; I am just an EB-3 :)
...reminds me of a quote from Maya Angelou:
"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain."
Lets all get together and work for visa recapture, it is free of country and category caps, everyone will benefit.
I completely agree. Tell me how are we acting differently than the Americans blaming the foreigners for bad economy? Look at the bigger picture before pointing fingers at each other. BTW, I am not an EB-1; I am just an EB-3 :)
dba9ioracle
05-19 05:31 PM
I called to 4 offices so far today afternoon. I talked to 2 of them and provided the information they asked, 1 asked if I am a IV member and 1 went to voice message. Got very friendly response.
Did you call today ? Please do call if you haven't so far.
Did you call today ? Please do call if you haven't so far.
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snathan
05-02 11:26 AM
It doesnt matter if you are struck in Atlanta or Chicago. If you are struck, gather here. We need to have enough resource, volunteer to make our case stronger. Based on the support from the members we can move further. As of now we are not sure about further action. We will post you soon on that.
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gbof
09-01 11:26 AM
This really is height of optimism......it seems that readers think that USCIS IOs were desperately waiting for dates to get current and start approving applications...reality is they don't care and never cared..they may start issuing more RFEs if anything...Again stay rooted to ground and don;t start floating in the clouds....especially with USCIS's fantastic track record.....
SoP
THIS IS THE REALITY ...
wake up ....
SoP
THIS IS THE REALITY ...
wake up ....
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veda
07-28 02:30 PM
I do not think it's a printer break down in that case it can be replaced in hours, I think it's breakdown of case workers.
Or
They may be confused with 2 years EAD.
As before 2 year EAD validity start date all TSC applications were approved and sent the card with in 45-60 days.
Now it's ...........s l o w.................
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They may be confused with 2 years EAD.
As before 2 year EAD validity start date all TSC applications were approved and sent the card with in 45-60 days.
Now it's ...........s l o w.................
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imv116
05-11 09:57 PM
Approved today in the most RESPECTED way for both Primary and Derivative.
--No Porting
--EB2- with qualified credentials: BS Engg;MS USA;
--No substitution
Called USCIS CS and verified information; and CS opened SR
Has been a long wait. Came in 1999 for MS, straight out of college from home country.
--No Porting
--EB2- with qualified credentials: BS Engg;MS USA;
--No substitution
Called USCIS CS and verified information; and CS opened SR
Has been a long wait. Came in 1999 for MS, straight out of college from home country.
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srikondoji
09-19 01:54 PM
sent you a PM.
Can you PM me your real name. I have a feeling, I know you by your real name.
:)
Meenal (ivhandle : beenwaiting)
Can you PM me your real name. I have a feeling, I know you by your real name.
:)
Meenal (ivhandle : beenwaiting)
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08-13 08:50 PM
My child aged out on Aug 25th last year. MY labor was filed in 2001 and took 6 years to clear. My I-140 was approved in March 2007.
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NolaIndian32
04-16 09:10 PM
Rest assured............I have checked out the blog and freaked out after I saw your timing :)
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Hey Girijas,
Thanks for your confidence in me, but it is all relative, I think I am a slow, average runner, slower than most of my running friends.
When I started running 10 years ago, my goal on the indoor track was to go around the track 2 times without having to stop and walk. Those 2 rounds made up a small distance of less than a quarter of a mile! So you see, small goals can one day lead you to a 26.2 mile goal as well :)
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Hey Girijas,
Thanks for your confidence in me, but it is all relative, I think I am a slow, average runner, slower than most of my running friends.
When I started running 10 years ago, my goal on the indoor track was to go around the track 2 times without having to stop and walk. Those 2 rounds made up a small distance of less than a quarter of a mile! So you see, small goals can one day lead you to a 26.2 mile goal as well :)
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PlainSpeak
01-12 05:29 PM
It is surprising (rather shocking) to see how a discussion on an EB bill (which might never see the light of day anyway) has degenerated into an oft-repeated rant on how IV does not represent EB3.
When I meet with my lawmaker's office (and when I again meet in Feb), I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. It is stupid to convert a chronic issue into a "IV is not trying" debate. As always, we have lots of armchair critics and few grass-roots workers.
Yes forever_waiting it is surprising and shocking to see how a discussion on an EB Bill which will never see the light of the day has degenerated into an oft-repeated rant
By using the keyword
oft-repeated (i will ignore the word rant because only an immature mind will call the other side of a discussion as rant) it
would imply that many EB3 members have raised the same concern in this forum before and i am not the first and believe me when i say this i will not be the last also. So that would mean a whole bunch of people (remember eb3 are 50 k and eb2 are 12k) have the same concern and they have raised the same concern in this same forum so that would mean IV is aware of the concern.
Now what has
IV done about it ??
Meeting a lawmaker with the support of IV behind you is not a reflection of a big effort on your side. The power behind that is IV. Now for me or any other EB3 to meet a law maker is not something i would consider an effort since EB3 are willing to put the same effort which you are putting only if they believein what they are doing. To believe a person needs to feel that they are working for a cause that will impact their situation. Sadly this is missing and that is why EB3 people are cool about the whole meet the law maker process
Regarding the statement I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. What specific steps has IV articulated to resolve the specific issue of EB3
By your own definition this is a chronic issue and what we are taught is that any issue which is chronic needs to be redressed and when it is not it becomes a big issue which cannot be handled
As always, there is the name calling stating that EB3 people aarmchair critics and winers but you are part of a community and you have issues you will air your greviences in the same community not to some one who has no idea or does notcare about it
What is really suprising and shocking is that in EB community itself EB2 does not care to listen and provide and open discussion about EB3 issues. Now according to me that is shocking
BTW i commend your effort of meeting the law maker but if you introspect the only reason you are making an effort is because you believe your efforts will bear fruit in the form of a GC soon (I believe you are EB2 with a priority date of Apr 08)
When I meet with my lawmaker's office (and when I again meet in Feb), I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. It is stupid to convert a chronic issue into a "IV is not trying" debate. As always, we have lots of armchair critics and few grass-roots workers.
Yes forever_waiting it is surprising and shocking to see how a discussion on an EB Bill which will never see the light of the day has degenerated into an oft-repeated rant
By using the keyword
oft-repeated (i will ignore the word rant because only an immature mind will call the other side of a discussion as rant) it
would imply that many EB3 members have raised the same concern in this forum before and i am not the first and believe me when i say this i will not be the last also. So that would mean a whole bunch of people (remember eb3 are 50 k and eb2 are 12k) have the same concern and they have raised the same concern in this same forum so that would mean IV is aware of the concern.
Now what has
IV done about it ??
Meeting a lawmaker with the support of IV behind you is not a reflection of a big effort on your side. The power behind that is IV. Now for me or any other EB3 to meet a law maker is not something i would consider an effort since EB3 are willing to put the same effort which you are putting only if they believein what they are doing. To believe a person needs to feel that they are working for a cause that will impact their situation. Sadly this is missing and that is why EB3 people are cool about the whole meet the law maker process
Regarding the statement I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. What specific steps has IV articulated to resolve the specific issue of EB3
By your own definition this is a chronic issue and what we are taught is that any issue which is chronic needs to be redressed and when it is not it becomes a big issue which cannot be handled
As always, there is the name calling stating that EB3 people aarmchair critics and winers but you are part of a community and you have issues you will air your greviences in the same community not to some one who has no idea or does notcare about it
What is really suprising and shocking is that in EB community itself EB2 does not care to listen and provide and open discussion about EB3 issues. Now according to me that is shocking
BTW i commend your effort of meeting the law maker but if you introspect the only reason you are making an effort is because you believe your efforts will bear fruit in the form of a GC soon (I believe you are EB2 with a priority date of Apr 08)
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snathan
04-12 12:57 PM
Hi Friends, we need to do something, consider sending letters to president, and should have only one thing, this is not fair.
anyone please prepare a letter for us.
What a strategy...wow I admire you.
anyone please prepare a letter for us.
What a strategy...wow I admire you.
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jonty_11
06-29 03:46 PM
Thanks Andy for something authentic. What is VCO advisory? Does this advisory reset dates in VB?
VCO is the office within DOS.....and yes it can supercede a VB (as it says)
VCO is the office within DOS.....and yes it can supercede a VB (as it says)
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Circus123
10-21 05:35 PM
Base Assumptions:
EB2 ratio (Pre PERM) 30% Before PERM came, PD was almost current and nobody cared for EB3 or EB2
EB3 ratio (Pre PERM) 70%
EB2 ratio (Post PERM) 50% After PERM, retrogression, people jumped on take advantage on EB2
EB3 ratio (Post PERM) 50%
Dependant 2.1
Indian National Ratio 60%
Total Labor Calculations
Approval Rate Total Comments Source
Backlog 363000 60% 217800 Before Mar 2005 http://www.murthy.com/news/n_relper.html
PERM 171000 75% 128250 Mar 2005- Mar 07 http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/dolstatperm.pdf
Total Labor (Approved) 217800 Pre PERM only
Indian National 130680
Total EB3 91476
Total Eb2 39204
Yearly allocation in % EB3 (total 485 applications) EB2 (total 485 Appl.) Total 485 Pending for Indian National
2001 10 19210 8233 27443
2002 20 38420 16466 54886
2003 30 57630 24699 82328
2004 35 67235 28815 96050
2005 (Before march) 5 9605 4116 13721
Mar 2005- Mar 2007 100% 80798 80798 161595
Total EB pending for Indian 436023
It seems to me that due to a lot of shuffling around , and people filing multiple EB labor certifications may have some bearing here.
Though it should not be in 5 figure digits , but hey that's what i can come up with right now ...
EB2 ratio (Pre PERM) 30% Before PERM came, PD was almost current and nobody cared for EB3 or EB2
EB3 ratio (Pre PERM) 70%
EB2 ratio (Post PERM) 50% After PERM, retrogression, people jumped on take advantage on EB2
EB3 ratio (Post PERM) 50%
Dependant 2.1
Indian National Ratio 60%
Total Labor Calculations
Approval Rate Total Comments Source
Backlog 363000 60% 217800 Before Mar 2005 http://www.murthy.com/news/n_relper.html
PERM 171000 75% 128250 Mar 2005- Mar 07 http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/dolstatperm.pdf
Total Labor (Approved) 217800 Pre PERM only
Indian National 130680
Total EB3 91476
Total Eb2 39204
Yearly allocation in % EB3 (total 485 applications) EB2 (total 485 Appl.) Total 485 Pending for Indian National
2001 10 19210 8233 27443
2002 20 38420 16466 54886
2003 30 57630 24699 82328
2004 35 67235 28815 96050
2005 (Before march) 5 9605 4116 13721
Mar 2005- Mar 2007 100% 80798 80798 161595
Total EB pending for Indian 436023
It seems to me that due to a lot of shuffling around , and people filing multiple EB labor certifications may have some bearing here.
Though it should not be in 5 figure digits , but hey that's what i can come up with right now ...
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05-16 08:31 PM
Let us consider contacting the following very powerful writers and commentators with a personal email! Keep them short and sweet, but send a note requesting their attention and support.
Admins, please consider sending them a note with more details, from your perspective.
Aziz Haniffa
Chief political correspondent, India Abroad
azizhaniff@aol.com
Fareed Zakaria
Editor, Newsweek International
comments@fareedzakaria.com
Charlie Rose
CHARLIE ROSE INC.
731 Lexington Ave
New York, NY - 10022
Phone: 212-617-1600
Sree Sreenivasan
sree@sree.net
Thanks.
Admins, please consider sending them a note with more details, from your perspective.
Aziz Haniffa
Chief political correspondent, India Abroad
azizhaniff@aol.com
Fareed Zakaria
Editor, Newsweek International
comments@fareedzakaria.com
Charlie Rose
CHARLIE ROSE INC.
731 Lexington Ave
New York, NY - 10022
Phone: 212-617-1600
Sree Sreenivasan
sree@sree.net
Thanks.
eb2_stuck
04-09 12:23 PM
Says who?
How do you know that US masters degree dont need to work for consulting firms?
Do US masters degree holders work for Deloitte? IBM Global Services? Accenture? KPMG? Price Water House Coopers?
What about Oracle consulting services? What about TRW? Bearingpoint?
All these are consulting companies or the divisions of consulting companies. Both US degree holders and the non-US degree holding duffers like myself work in consulting firms(I dont anymore since 2003). In fact, I have had my classmates from India have to look for consulting jobs after they did MS in computer science from USA.
You are under the impression that the bill is outlawing desi consulting firms and firms that exploit.
The bill outlaws OUTPLACEMENT. And the bill applies to all firms, desi firms and the big 5 consulting firms and your IBM, TRW ... everyone.
Please read the bill and read the description in the first post.
And although I am the last one to engage in US-degree versus non-US degree and Masters Versus Non-Masters fueds, I am tempted to say that US masters or US degree isnt worth a bucket of warm spit when the market is bad.
When the market is really bad, like it was in 2001 and 2002, I have seen many Masters degree holders pack up and throw in the towel and I have seen many individuals with degrees from private Tier 3 university from India survive just fine in an environment where there were 80 resumes for each IT job. The US masters degree holders, particularly with computer masters degrees with their courses in useless subjects like "assembly level programming" and their binary math didnt do squat for them while looking for jobs during recession times and could not stand competition from bachelor's degree holders from Tier 3 university from India who had done 6 month course in NIIT.
However if you are proud of your US degree and US masters, suit yourself. But dont say things like "I dont need consulting". Coz you really do and so do thousands of others having US degrees.
This H1B drama has really brought out the "indian" in each one of us (you). God Forbid, some of the anti-immigrant agencies see this, we will no face to fight.
To say something like what logiclife has said only brings out the true face of the some people behind immigrationvoice.org. It all boils down to "who has a US degree and who hasnt"..well, Mr logiclife, You dont know the value of a US degree simply because you dont have one! I want my GC as much as some people here without a US degree, but to classify a US degree as being the same as "warm spit" is just plain "uneducated". Now, I really appreciate all that immigrationvoice.org is doing for our community, but some of the these stupid racist comments from the so-called administartors,with such an attitude,who happen to meet the US lawmakers scares me a lot.
How do you know that US masters degree dont need to work for consulting firms?
Do US masters degree holders work for Deloitte? IBM Global Services? Accenture? KPMG? Price Water House Coopers?
What about Oracle consulting services? What about TRW? Bearingpoint?
All these are consulting companies or the divisions of consulting companies. Both US degree holders and the non-US degree holding duffers like myself work in consulting firms(I dont anymore since 2003). In fact, I have had my classmates from India have to look for consulting jobs after they did MS in computer science from USA.
You are under the impression that the bill is outlawing desi consulting firms and firms that exploit.
The bill outlaws OUTPLACEMENT. And the bill applies to all firms, desi firms and the big 5 consulting firms and your IBM, TRW ... everyone.
Please read the bill and read the description in the first post.
And although I am the last one to engage in US-degree versus non-US degree and Masters Versus Non-Masters fueds, I am tempted to say that US masters or US degree isnt worth a bucket of warm spit when the market is bad.
When the market is really bad, like it was in 2001 and 2002, I have seen many Masters degree holders pack up and throw in the towel and I have seen many individuals with degrees from private Tier 3 university from India survive just fine in an environment where there were 80 resumes for each IT job. The US masters degree holders, particularly with computer masters degrees with their courses in useless subjects like "assembly level programming" and their binary math didnt do squat for them while looking for jobs during recession times and could not stand competition from bachelor's degree holders from Tier 3 university from India who had done 6 month course in NIIT.
However if you are proud of your US degree and US masters, suit yourself. But dont say things like "I dont need consulting". Coz you really do and so do thousands of others having US degrees.
This H1B drama has really brought out the "indian" in each one of us (you). God Forbid, some of the anti-immigrant agencies see this, we will no face to fight.
To say something like what logiclife has said only brings out the true face of the some people behind immigrationvoice.org. It all boils down to "who has a US degree and who hasnt"..well, Mr logiclife, You dont know the value of a US degree simply because you dont have one! I want my GC as much as some people here without a US degree, but to classify a US degree as being the same as "warm spit" is just plain "uneducated". Now, I really appreciate all that immigrationvoice.org is doing for our community, but some of the these stupid racist comments from the so-called administartors,with such an attitude,who happen to meet the US lawmakers scares me a lot.
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06-13 11:35 AM
I think i heard that mike pence will be on lou dobb's tonight.