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  • forever_waiting
    01-12 08:16 PM
    Grass-roots advocacy means advocacy at ground level

    Glad you finally realized it.

    case in point PAPPU the admin who is the only admin i see on the forum since he is eb3
    Yes, and pappu actually works actively for IV provisions and guides us, instead of complaining and making senseless NOISE like you are.

    i would classify you as a idT iot if you have NOT realised that from my first post that all i have talking about is "more should be done for EB3" and not "no one is doing anything for EB3". If you have not realised that you are an a person who is blinded by your own Stupidness.

    I thought you did not believe in name-calling. Looks like you change your opinions and stance as per your convenience and frustrations.

    EB2 consider themselves superior to EB3
    This is an empty claim created by you alone due to your paranoia. Its all inside your head. Again.. empty vessels make lot of noise.

    You dont have to wish EB3 folks good luck because we make our own luck (God when i see your bigoted ass get a gc we will well rid of you
    Very mature, my friend. Hope you get the good sense to stop abusing folks here and actually doing some good for the overall EB cause. Stop spreading these conspiracy theories and fears..we all have enough on our hands already. You DO NOT represent EB3 here. You are just a frustrated and embarassed person trying to hide behind your username and venting out against some hypothetical problem you have created in your head. Please get some help.

    And spare us another 1000 word essay. I think we have heard enough. Find another place to get some therapy.

    Grass-roots advocacy means advocacy at ground level.

    Ground level in political terms means opinion of actual worker who is doing the work and in this case it would be all the people who are actually doing the work of meeting meeting law makers and to explain retrogresssion to them. That would be the donors and people like you who have our respect. For a grass root level advocacy to work an organization has to be made up of grass root worker. Grass root workers are the people at the bottom of totem pole. In our case that would be EB3 workers now we all know that EB2 workers when they get their green card dissapear from the forum and leaves the EB3 guys to carry the burden (case in point PAPPU the admin who is the only admin i see on the forum since he is eb3) . So finally we are left to handle the IV Movement movind forward. Now if i was an organizer of a movement i would make sure that all the points made by the organisation is directed towards allaying the concern of people who have been impacted most by retrogration (BTW that would be Eb3 guys and not EB23 who by their god given right have first preference over everything and wil get residency soon because they are a preffered catefgory).

    i would classify you as a idT iot if you have NOT realised that from my first post that all i have talking about is "more should be done for EB3" and not "no one is doing anything for EB3". If you have not realised that you are an a person who is blinded by your own Stupidness.

    ()
    EB3 workers understand advocacy (Please do NOT think we are people who have to be lead by someone who thinks they are intellectually superior(yes i am talking about EBS persons). You are the same as us so this EB2 and EBS classification is redumbent and moot)

    yes this discussion has been entertaining because it has lead to a revelation that EB2 consider themselves superior to EB3 and you do not get to say when this discussison ends because you are short time oppurtunist and your word has not value

    Even a coolie knows that after working harde whole day he will be paid at the end of the day but EB3 folks will not
    get that satisfaction till all EB2 get their green cards

    You dont have to wish EB3 folks good luck because we make our own luck (God when i see your bigoted ass get a gc we will well rid of you)





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  • nixstor
    05-23 01:57 PM
    I removed congresswoman Lucille Roybal-Allard from the list as she is now the co sponsor of all three bills





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  • vactorboy29
    02-26 04:54 PM
    i am not baniya... in fact i lament the fact that i am not a baniya... i am a pure bred brahmin with high education, my entire family is highly educated till my family tree can be traced... they are all people who did noble things for God, kings etc... but i am aspiring to be a big time baniya... this last century and present time is a capitalist period... baniyas rock! they rule! if i had wealth, i would never share it... i will simply find ways to make other people slightly happy so that they keep buying my products/services... hail baniyaism

    Baniya's are most generous people in India .Go look for any tample trust or other charitable organisation.Yes they are business minded people.
    Disclaimer - I am "Baniya"





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  • mmrao2007
    06-14 01:15 PM
    All those who are still waiting in BEC black hole, I feel for you. I was stuck in BEC for four years. Only managed to get out a couple of months ago after they allowed TR cases to be converted to RIR.

    I tend to think the same way as chanduv23. Our final goal is a Green card, and it may still turn out that the people who are currently still waiting in BEC may end up getting their GC in hand before many of the ones that can apply for 485 in July.

    The reason is that USCIS has clearly stated that it will retrogress big time in September. So, people with recent PDs may get to file their 485 but may have to wait for a long time for their PD to become current again to get the approval notice (folks, I am not wishing ill against any group here! I wish we all got our GCs ASAP. But since that is not going to happen, just trying to analyze facts). On the other hand, if BEC comes through with their sep 07 prediction, then these people with much older PDs may be able to apply for their 140/485 at that time and may end up getting their GC 6-12 months later because their PDs will still be current at the time of approval (Of course, this is assuming that they will not get caught in the Name Check Black hole)

    So, all those who are still stuck in BEC, please hang in there, your day of freedom will arrive (maybe sooner than you are currently thinking).

    My prayers are with you all guys who are stuck at BECs and waiting for more than threes like I did. As someone said, Good things come to those who waits.



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  • pd052009
    04-11 03:53 PM
    Bump
    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html

    Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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  • samswas
    05-14 10:52 PM
    Just got the CPO mail.

    Thank you IV for all the efforts.

    Special thanks to 'Q' (who started original EB2/EB3 Predictions rather calculations thread), Teddy, Vdlrao and everybody who are contributing here. Your predictions gave me hope when I was really lost. Hope you will also get it this year.

    My best wishes to all who are still waiting.



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  • lutherpraveen
    01-19 01:24 PM
    On a related note, free riders may not be checking this forum. The title says that this is of no interest to them.

    I agree, titles like "H4 to H1", "Changing Employers", "Urgent question" etc. etc. will obviously be visited more.
    May be a gentle reminder about contributions in other topics would help.
    How sad it is that we don't get support from our own.





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  • GCard_Dream
    07-11 04:35 PM
    What's up with this site. I thought they updated the server yesterday and we shouldn't see the kind of downtime as we have been seeing in the past but I still don't see any difference. Did the server upgrade not make any difference. May be we should do a fund raising for server upgrade only. This is so frustrating that whenever there is some exciting news, you can't rely on IV webpage because it goes down. If core team needs money for server upgrade, I am all for it but someone please fix this mess.



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  • gbof
    08-05 04:31 PM
    Going by the trend...your lucky day may be tomorrow...Aug 6th...2 weeks from the date your case was assigned..

    Good luck..

    Thank you !!. I really want this wait to end sooner than later....





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  • tonyHK12
    09-30 08:29 AM
    I decided to join you as a monthly Donor today.

    It looks like your organization is the only one doing anything concrete to help legal immigrants. I had trouble finding support on other immigration sites.

    This is request to other members and forum browsers, guests to also support their effort.

    The recession has been tough, but if I had to choose, my immigration is more important to me than cable TV.



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  • eb3retro
    07-15 04:06 PM
    why dont you enlighten us all here with your english knowledge. i am pretty sure you are one cockroach who grew up in dirty gutter in some part of the world. You are here in IV just to create controversies between the IV members. Trust me, EB2 or EB3, we are smart enough to recognize tunnel rats like you and keep you where you belong - in the gutter...got it?

    We know for sure nothing is going to happen with EB3 unless EB2 also moves. USCIS will never skip EB2 to help EB3. The law does not allow that. So, the interviewee must talk about the topic as a whole not EB2 or EB3 - no one in America knows what those mean.

    The bigger issue is that not many can speak/write English well and so cannot be sent on TV....unless the interview is on Namaste India or something.





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  • smisachu
    01-12 06:02 PM
    I highly doubt any one with a full time job will trade enough volume for it to be cost effective to claim trader status when filing taxes. If you trade for a living,not work as a trader then it makes absolute sense to file as a trader.

    What is the advantage of claiming trader status on your tax return? I buy / sell shares on different days of the week (example: Buy on Monday, Sell on Friday). Does that make me a day trader?
    I am doing this on H1B. I do have approved EAD.



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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-25 10:37 AM
    There are too many assumptions here. How I see this situation is;
    EB3 I will not move significantly unless and until oversubscribed EB2s become current. Even then, it cannot be taken as granted because the demand of EB2s can take all the spill over and be current without spilling to EB3. USCIS will eventually make the change once they see that EB3 has significant retrogression and there is a lot of noise made about it.

    The solution I see is; we can make a valid presentation showing the effects of this spillover change in the long run and how EB3s will be affected seriously.

    This is my take on spill over interpretation and please dont feel bad if you do not like it. Lets take it this way assume we have 40K extra visa # from EB1 and ROW categories that need to be spilled over to ICPM countries. Now you have two options
    1) Spill it by PD. Which helps EB3 (I)
    2) Spill it by category which helps EB2 (I) & EB2(C)

    If you look at numbers EB3 I # are huge so inspite of pumping 40K into it the numbers barely inch forward. We have seen this all the way till 2007. Where as in just 2 years of spillover EB2 I has moved into 2005 with prediction of becoming current in 2-3 years.

    Now if I was USCIS director and going to Senate hearing. What would I like to tell them that I have used all visa # and EB2 & EB3 are severly backlogged. Or should I say I used up all visa # and now EB1 & Eb2 are current and we have backlogs in only Eb3 category.

    Just that I feel USCIS can claim more bang for buck when they spill in EB2. (just my theory not justyfying it). Also I feel Eb2 is used by large US corporations for its H1 employees especially STEM graduates working. Example Intel, Texas Instruments, Microsoft etc also large financial companies especially for employees on business side (not IT employees). There is pressure from these companies since they do not want to lose some one with business knowledge because of immigrations rules. Just look at how many times Bill Gates has shown up on Senate floor to pitch for EB immigration reform. If you make EB2 current you can shut him up since most Micro Soft employees are under Eb2 category. That way you are effectively muting the critisism againt you on senate floor.

    This way USCIS can also keep these people happy since they can claim that EB2 which translates as Exceptional Ability and Advanced Degrees are now close to current. The only catch is consulting companies and outsourcing companies have sneaked large number of people into Eb2 and they have become lucky.





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  • gcisadawg
    01-23 12:32 AM
    No issues if you go back. That can happen to anybody. Nobody is safe in this country.

    Make sure you pay off your mortgages if you do and cover all your liabilities.

    There should be criminal action against loan defaulters, otherwise lessons won't be learnt.
    And if you don't want to persecute these sons of bitches, give a portion of my tax money back, which I paid for last 9 frigging years, which has gone into these bailouts. I'm not even asking for the loss of revenue my company has endured due to our customers (high profile banks) slashing their IT expenditure. I cannot. Don't compensate me for the ripple effect but at least compensate me for the prospect of job losses me and thousands like me face this HISTORIC year of 2009, when a white president has entered the black house ..oops a black president has entered the white house.

    (I'm not making anything up, everything I wrote about my company's customers is true).

    Immigrants who don't pay off and run away should be extradited and put behind bars.

    Yes, we can. Yes, we can change. Yes, we can. And folks, if you don't like my language, consider me insane and leave it at that but give my tax money back not in IOU and promissary notes but in checks.

    Alright buddy, The only loan I've is few hundred dollars on my credit card which I pay every month though! Car is paid and no home! Sorry, no money from me to you! You have to find another person! I can buy you a cup of coffee though so that you can relax a bit!
    But I do respect if any non GC holder go and buy a home.
    I agree with your point about defaulters. But take your argument elsewhere.
    In California, a musician who claimed 100K income/year was asked to stand in front of his home with his musical instrument and photographed. That photograph went into Washington Mutual's file as income proof. If you think, the housing crisis is because of defaulters, you are partially wrong! Prices went very high and people couldnt buy and that is the reason home prices went down. Since it went down, loans backed up by those very assets lost value. And people defaulted because what they owe was higher than the value of home!
    You are really delusional if you think non GC home-owners are to be blamed for this mess!

    You really need a good tax refund from the government! File your taxes soon!



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  • chapper
    07-11 05:24 PM
    The letter was drafted on the 9th - so a response is due today. He may take his time to respond to Congress Woman letter by saying there are more pressing matter's on hand that, he has to deal with, including the word "gut feeling"

    Now this is what is going to happen.

    Because DOS and USCIS screwed up big time playing loosely with laws and expecting no reprisals for their actions, they will now beg/borrow for the lost visa numbers and make them available for July filers.

    I see no escape route for the mess up. Rice, who did not pay any attention to this fisco gave her on the lip casual response to MSNBC reporter.

    It looks like this issue is bigger than Iraq from security stand point of view and also with latest information of Al-Qaeda making statements to get into US for attacks.





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  • sachin76
    05-25 08:36 PM
    I sent my Efile application for EAd on 4/19. Sent out supporting documents. No email yet. Online shows, still "initial Review".



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  • InTheMoment
    02-02 01:52 AM
    Well now the Oh Law website mentions about it too...referring to a Division B of H.R 2.

    "....The Senate floor then agreed to a lot of these amendments. One of these amendments which the Senate had agreed to and passed as Division B of the H.R. 2 is the Immigration Reform bill."

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  • BharatPremi
    09-24 02:28 PM
    When I see EB3-China data in USCIS's work sheet I am getting shocked. How come EB3-China has a such a low pending number particularly comparing with Eb3-India?

    That is the first point for me to generate doubts about the accuracy of the data.





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  • snathan
    03-27 11:58 AM
    With this attitude and arrogance, I rarely think there would be motivation for anyone to do anything for IV.

    I started discussion by asking , how can IV convince me that my donation is going to help, I got shot down by ARROGANT ******** and got all reds as if I care. I was planning on a charity/donation drive of my own to get some money for IV.
    Know lot of consultants, who really dont know what to do with their miles with every one a executive airline status.
    Already have 10+ people pledging Poker tournament from my poker group with their miles for Airlines and hotels. We are talking of a Million AA miles.
    Indian restaurants(s) having a Immigration week where a dollar of each bill be given to IV.
    I was even thinking of standing at Indian stores in Dallas to ask people to consider for IV cause, as long as I believed and hence was asking.

    I was just getting started with so many ideas for my free time.

    Good luck in what ever you do guys. Note that GC is not everything and note that I am still on extended H1, family on H1 and EAD never helped me. so assumption that EAD helped my life is baseless. All these hypocrites are long gone from IV once they get GC. All we get is response that Mr X or Y , even after getting GC, is working fro cause. How can I believe.

    Any organization can be successful if there are questions answered and not shot down. Just working at DC doesnt make some one a strong contributor for IV.Work at grass root level is so imp. What I have noticed is any one who went to DC has become headstrong, egoist and arrogant as if they own IV.


    Please read my initial post before commenting. I always said, I am for IV cause. just convince me so that I can convince some one

    Gisa pita dialogue,...dont ask what IV has done,, ask yourself what you have done... COMMON

    Here it is, I can write in BOLD and RED

    You can stand all day and night but no one is going to bother you. That’s the reality. Now I am really convinced there no is point in arguing with you. It seems like you don’t have an iota of idea about ground reality or boozing all day or simply a moron.





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    05-19 03:46 PM
    Is there a Phone # to make a service request if your case is transferred to Local Office, in my case, its transferred to Newark, NJ office since Oct. 2009.





    dhesha
    04-07 10:15 PM
    I am surprised, but are you really a member of the "high skilled" community or are you just faking it to be on this forum?
    I don't think you should embarrass your self or your profession, though we do not know your identity.

    Dude what is wrong in what Saralayar suggested. If we can do something like that, cant we compensate the delay that is causing in getting GC, in the citizenship process and reduce the effective damage. Not sure what was your reason to become so furious. This was in-fact a good idea and must be considered upon.



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