enggr
09-26 02:37 AM
I received an RFE from NSE on Sep 2nd week asking me to prove that I have 5 years of experience after completion of degree.
Country: India
Date of Joining with current employer : Jan 2006.
PERM Filing/ Approval Date: Aug 2006.
I-485/ EAD filing Date: July 2007.
I-140 RFE received date: Sep 2007.
The RFE reads as follows.
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"Please submit evidence which establishes that the beneficiary had at least five years of experience as a software engineer after receiving his bachelor's degree but prior to August XX, 2006. Since your evidence does not indicate that the beneficiary received his bachelor's degree until 2002, this does not appear possible.
If the beneficiary received a degree prior to 2002, please submit a copy of that degree. A certificate that he had completed a coursework for a degree is not a degree."
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This is my history.
I did my 4-year Bachelor's of Technology in Mechanical Engineering in Dec 2000. My diploma (degree certificate) has two dates on it. December 2000 and June 2002. The December 2000 date is mentioned in Big letters as its the completion of my final semester exams. The June 2002 date was due to taking one of the supplementary exam of one subject of one of my previous semester .
I was hired by a software company in December 2000 and I have work experience ( as well as experience letter with 40 hours a week) as a software engineer from Dec 2000.
But now according to the RFE, INS is not ready to count that experience from Dec 2000. I finished my school in Dec 2000 and never had to go to the school except for one exam in 2001 and another one in June 2002. (In my university, examinations are conducted only once in 8 months). I checked my transcripts that were sent along with I-140 and it has the dates of 2001 and June 2002 due to the examination. Its present at the bottom along with Main date of Dec 2000.
I had placed the course completion certificate from my college along with the I-140 application and it looks like INS don't take that info consideration.
I am in deep trouble now. Your help is greatly appreciated. My attorney didn't find these issues before filing the labor certification on EB2.
The newspaper ad given before filing the labor certification asks for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience.
Please help me by sharing your experience(s) as well as comments. I will really appreciate your time and effort.
My only concern is to save my labor certification so that I can keep my I-140. I read in some threads that INS gave an option to convert the case as EB3. I would have been very happy if I had received that option. I requested my attorney for EB3 conversion at this point of time. He said its not possible as conversion needs to qualify the beneficiary for both categories (EB2 as well as EB3). He added that the labor certification was done on EB2.
I have applied for my I-485/EAD in July 2007. The EAD is about to come but I have this biggest problem of I-140 RFE. If the I-140 is denied my wife's EAD will automatically get revoked which will stop her from working.
Some of my friends recommended to respond to the RFE, file an MTR if I-140 is denied and an appeal if MTR also doesn't work. They also suggested me to file a new PERM application as a backup. All this works as I don't have any plans to switch my employer till I receive my final green card. But my wife will be in trouble as she can't use the current EAD. An attorney friend of mine is saying that those actions (MTR/ Appeal) will only keep the labor and I-140 on hold/pending, but won't keep the EAD alive. Is there a way I can keep my EAD alive by those motions?
Is there any way I can get this RFE cleared and have my I-140 approved? Can I keep my EAD alive somehow
Country: India
Date of Joining with current employer : Jan 2006.
PERM Filing/ Approval Date: Aug 2006.
I-485/ EAD filing Date: July 2007.
I-140 RFE received date: Sep 2007.
The RFE reads as follows.
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"Please submit evidence which establishes that the beneficiary had at least five years of experience as a software engineer after receiving his bachelor's degree but prior to August XX, 2006. Since your evidence does not indicate that the beneficiary received his bachelor's degree until 2002, this does not appear possible.
If the beneficiary received a degree prior to 2002, please submit a copy of that degree. A certificate that he had completed a coursework for a degree is not a degree."
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This is my history.
I did my 4-year Bachelor's of Technology in Mechanical Engineering in Dec 2000. My diploma (degree certificate) has two dates on it. December 2000 and June 2002. The December 2000 date is mentioned in Big letters as its the completion of my final semester exams. The June 2002 date was due to taking one of the supplementary exam of one subject of one of my previous semester .
I was hired by a software company in December 2000 and I have work experience ( as well as experience letter with 40 hours a week) as a software engineer from Dec 2000.
But now according to the RFE, INS is not ready to count that experience from Dec 2000. I finished my school in Dec 2000 and never had to go to the school except for one exam in 2001 and another one in June 2002. (In my university, examinations are conducted only once in 8 months). I checked my transcripts that were sent along with I-140 and it has the dates of 2001 and June 2002 due to the examination. Its present at the bottom along with Main date of Dec 2000.
I had placed the course completion certificate from my college along with the I-140 application and it looks like INS don't take that info consideration.
I am in deep trouble now. Your help is greatly appreciated. My attorney didn't find these issues before filing the labor certification on EB2.
The newspaper ad given before filing the labor certification asks for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience.
Please help me by sharing your experience(s) as well as comments. I will really appreciate your time and effort.
My only concern is to save my labor certification so that I can keep my I-140. I read in some threads that INS gave an option to convert the case as EB3. I would have been very happy if I had received that option. I requested my attorney for EB3 conversion at this point of time. He said its not possible as conversion needs to qualify the beneficiary for both categories (EB2 as well as EB3). He added that the labor certification was done on EB2.
I have applied for my I-485/EAD in July 2007. The EAD is about to come but I have this biggest problem of I-140 RFE. If the I-140 is denied my wife's EAD will automatically get revoked which will stop her from working.
Some of my friends recommended to respond to the RFE, file an MTR if I-140 is denied and an appeal if MTR also doesn't work. They also suggested me to file a new PERM application as a backup. All this works as I don't have any plans to switch my employer till I receive my final green card. But my wife will be in trouble as she can't use the current EAD. An attorney friend of mine is saying that those actions (MTR/ Appeal) will only keep the labor and I-140 on hold/pending, but won't keep the EAD alive. Is there a way I can keep my EAD alive by those motions?
Is there any way I can get this RFE cleared and have my I-140 approved? Can I keep my EAD alive somehow
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shivarajan
06-10 03:52 AM
funny it says ...
"...... we can likely expect to see the following cutoff dates in the October, 2009 Visa Bulletin:...."
EB2 Worldwide: Current
EB2 China and India: Outlook is "grim" and there may be further retrogressions until later in the fiscal year.
Can anything be grimmer than U (EB3) and 01-JAN-2000 --almost 1999 (EB2) which it is currently?
It may be "U" (that's not grim for us for sure, we can take anything now --some have lost it waiting long... so try out?)
Or ohhh wait r they creating a new record assigning something like 1991 for EB* (India) rather than U?
U don't even see cars that old on roads :D
"...... we can likely expect to see the following cutoff dates in the October, 2009 Visa Bulletin:...."
EB2 Worldwide: Current
EB2 China and India: Outlook is "grim" and there may be further retrogressions until later in the fiscal year.
Can anything be grimmer than U (EB3) and 01-JAN-2000 --almost 1999 (EB2) which it is currently?
It may be "U" (that's not grim for us for sure, we can take anything now --some have lost it waiting long... so try out?)
Or ohhh wait r they creating a new record assigning something like 1991 for EB* (India) rather than U?
U don't even see cars that old on roads :D
GCard_Dream
12-13 03:53 PM
logiclife,
Your logic is beyond me. On one hand you seem to disagree with the practice of labor substitution but on the other hand you are more than happy to provide the recipe for it. Are you for it or against it. Or may be you are just trying to help an IV member.
It may be legal but should be discouraged to say the least.
Other than that, you will find a lot of hatred from this forum as what you are doing is very much inflaming since you are cutting in line -- legally so -- but still, its cutting in line. So dont be surprised by that.
Your logic is beyond me. On one hand you seem to disagree with the practice of labor substitution but on the other hand you are more than happy to provide the recipe for it. Are you for it or against it. Or may be you are just trying to help an IV member.
It may be legal but should be discouraged to say the least.
Other than that, you will find a lot of hatred from this forum as what you are doing is very much inflaming since you are cutting in line -- legally so -- but still, its cutting in line. So dont be surprised by that.
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tonyHK12
10-27 09:37 AM
Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.
Yes its pretty much difficult for an Indian to arrive here and find a job. Forget about settling, many EB3s have already crossed 5-10 year mark. EB2 at least 5.
I guess he left out the point about locals moving to non-IT related fields in which the salaries are very slowly catching up to IT. These need to grow now with govt, private sector support, now that the glamour of US GC is almost non-existent for new IT graduates and almost pays back like the typical 20 year LIC policy of the 1990s I had. India has always been good in other industries like Textile, steel, cars, etc, and need to get some to world class levels.
I was going to say infrastructure is improving and things would get very good in India in 5-10 years (?) that US IT folks would seriously not find a difference in lifestyle.
But then I saw one of the recent movie hits, and saw the most stuff seemed to be incredulous, unbelievable - good songs though. I change my mind most times when I read some local news or see an occasional movie.
Is there a fundamental change in thinking needed in some areas among a vast majority? something to do with realism, acheiving quality in everything.
Corruption doesn't seem to be the only problem.
Money may not always be the primary reason for people to relocate to India. It will be an oppurtunity to experience the best quality of work, education and learning, the same reason many of us come here.
There has to be more aggressive regular benchmarking of everything with developed countries.
I guess its also a normal part of evolution to a future developed country.
Yes its pretty much difficult for an Indian to arrive here and find a job. Forget about settling, many EB3s have already crossed 5-10 year mark. EB2 at least 5.
I guess he left out the point about locals moving to non-IT related fields in which the salaries are very slowly catching up to IT. These need to grow now with govt, private sector support, now that the glamour of US GC is almost non-existent for new IT graduates and almost pays back like the typical 20 year LIC policy of the 1990s I had. India has always been good in other industries like Textile, steel, cars, etc, and need to get some to world class levels.
I was going to say infrastructure is improving and things would get very good in India in 5-10 years (?) that US IT folks would seriously not find a difference in lifestyle.
But then I saw one of the recent movie hits, and saw the most stuff seemed to be incredulous, unbelievable - good songs though. I change my mind most times when I read some local news or see an occasional movie.
Is there a fundamental change in thinking needed in some areas among a vast majority? something to do with realism, acheiving quality in everything.
Corruption doesn't seem to be the only problem.
Money may not always be the primary reason for people to relocate to India. It will be an oppurtunity to experience the best quality of work, education and learning, the same reason many of us come here.
There has to be more aggressive regular benchmarking of everything with developed countries.
I guess its also a normal part of evolution to a future developed country.
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vamsi_poondla
09-28 01:04 AM
look the same. From those Anti_immigrant, anti-foriegn programers group. Wake up buddy you should welcome new immigrants or you and your father won't get your social security payment. That's reality. Becoz all of your children are working in either Burger Kings or McDonald's without working hard for thier degrees. And I agree they work hard on asking you if it is TO GO or for here. You want any soda?
Go Figure!
In what way this is related to the post? You need not flare up and bring all this crap if someone like cnndwag wanted to say what he felt obvious.
For me it looks like an honest mistake or intended mistake by someone who wants to get GC fast. (and getting GC in EB2 or EB1 is not a great award..it just reduces the queue). If what IV is fighting for is achieved, nobody cares to switch the categories as everybody will get their GC on time.
Go Figure!
In what way this is related to the post? You need not flare up and bring all this crap if someone like cnndwag wanted to say what he felt obvious.
For me it looks like an honest mistake or intended mistake by someone who wants to get GC fast. (and getting GC in EB2 or EB1 is not a great award..it just reduces the queue). If what IV is fighting for is achieved, nobody cares to switch the categories as everybody will get their GC on time.
alterego
11-02 01:14 PM
Eb3I may nudge forward a little bit. Sadly that won't be very helpful to most folks on this board. Visa recapture is the only thing that can help near term. In the interim, administrative fixes, rule clarifications, USCIS efficiencies in application processings, Data transparency, though not glamorous victories as say visa recapture. Nonetheless make the path somewhat more comfortable and predictable.
EB3ROW may move also.
The movement of EB2I will be quite revealing for me. If there is quarterly spillover(which under current rules should be the case) then we might see some forward movement or at the very minimum the dates should stay put. However if there is no quarterly spillover, then with the approvals in EB2 recently, they will be hard pressed not to move dates backward somewhat.
EB3ROW may move also.
The movement of EB2I will be quite revealing for me. If there is quarterly spillover(which under current rules should be the case) then we might see some forward movement or at the very minimum the dates should stay put. However if there is no quarterly spillover, then with the approvals in EB2 recently, they will be hard pressed not to move dates backward somewhat.
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skp71
12-12 09:49 PM
What's going on with EB3 ROW? No movement at all!! What's goin to happen in coming months???
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indianindian2006
08-22 09:31 PM
Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...
Looks like this needs correction.Labors expire after 180 days from approval date after July 16th.
http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/fraud_faqs_07-13-07.pdf
Read on page 4
Looks like this needs correction.Labors expire after 180 days from approval date after July 16th.
http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/fraud_faqs_07-13-07.pdf
Read on page 4
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vejella
12-13 03:56 PM
All,
With the current rate of outsourcing happening around in US and the rate of influx of temporary workers coming in on mostly L1 and may be few on H1 B Visas every year through the outsourcing companies , i am sceptical about the future of GC aspirants. With the way of GC processing happening which are caused by restrictions /policies of governing bodies and no sight of positive relief in near future i am little apprehensive about the future.
I feel that there might be no areas that are not impacted by Outsourcing boom . Most of the companies that i see and my friends work ,i see many of the operations are outsourced or planning in place to get outsourced.
with the current rate of outsourcing and subprime mess which may cause slow down in economy , i am not sure if there would be any positions to support our AOS , when our PD becomes current. Some times i think , the fight for GC is even worth it.
Every one feel free to post your views/opinions/Analysis on this topic ....
With the current rate of outsourcing happening around in US and the rate of influx of temporary workers coming in on mostly L1 and may be few on H1 B Visas every year through the outsourcing companies , i am sceptical about the future of GC aspirants. With the way of GC processing happening which are caused by restrictions /policies of governing bodies and no sight of positive relief in near future i am little apprehensive about the future.
I feel that there might be no areas that are not impacted by Outsourcing boom . Most of the companies that i see and my friends work ,i see many of the operations are outsourced or planning in place to get outsourced.
with the current rate of outsourcing and subprime mess which may cause slow down in economy , i am not sure if there would be any positions to support our AOS , when our PD becomes current. Some times i think , the fight for GC is even worth it.
Every one feel free to post your views/opinions/Analysis on this topic ....
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nikamd
05-11 06:03 PM
Gaz,
Totally agree with you. We always think and hope grass is greener on the other side and in this case we may not realize now difficult it might be for these kids to have a normal life.
In our case by which I mean the EB community we have our own issues which for us would see the most important and of the highest priority. I am also in the same boat and think about it day in and day out. I just think about it and my actions to improve the situation have been insignificant. Hats off to you all for trying to improve the situation and contribute in changing the system.
Totally agree with you. We always think and hope grass is greener on the other side and in this case we may not realize now difficult it might be for these kids to have a normal life.
In our case by which I mean the EB community we have our own issues which for us would see the most important and of the highest priority. I am also in the same boat and think about it day in and day out. I just think about it and my actions to improve the situation have been insignificant. Hats off to you all for trying to improve the situation and contribute in changing the system.
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sashidhar_gundimeda
07-03 09:01 AM
Tangible:
Medical - $145
Photos - $16
USPS - $35
Fees - $650
Total: ~850
Intangible:
1) Advanced my engagement date. Tried to arrange an earlier marriage date. Placed everybody involved, my fiancee, her parents, her brothers, my parents and myself under huge pressure. All the bad reputation which I am facing now because of all that.
2) Bad reputation at work for not focusing on the job and the time that I took off from work to fix appointments for medical.
3) Most importantly the frustration and disappointment from this huge mess.
Lessons learned:
1) DO NOT trust USCIS or DOS, they are here not to help us nor make things easier for us.
2) G.C. process is mainly based on luck and not on merit.
3) We Indians have a bad reputation among Americans, for their allegations that we are taking away their jobs.
4) Bottomline, our life in USA is coming to an close. Time to have our bags packed and ready to relocate back to home.
Medical - $145
Photos - $16
USPS - $35
Fees - $650
Total: ~850
Intangible:
1) Advanced my engagement date. Tried to arrange an earlier marriage date. Placed everybody involved, my fiancee, her parents, her brothers, my parents and myself under huge pressure. All the bad reputation which I am facing now because of all that.
2) Bad reputation at work for not focusing on the job and the time that I took off from work to fix appointments for medical.
3) Most importantly the frustration and disappointment from this huge mess.
Lessons learned:
1) DO NOT trust USCIS or DOS, they are here not to help us nor make things easier for us.
2) G.C. process is mainly based on luck and not on merit.
3) We Indians have a bad reputation among Americans, for their allegations that we are taking away their jobs.
4) Bottomline, our life in USA is coming to an close. Time to have our bags packed and ready to relocate back to home.
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logiclife
05-29 04:43 PM
For those who were waiting for lawyers to confirm our fears that those whose 140 was filed or to be filed after May 21 2007 will be forced to let go of their GC file and use the new points based merit system......you have lawyer's answer.
And the interpretation of IV core and lawyers is the same. THE INTRODUCTION DATE of the bill is the cut-off date for pending or approved 140s to be allowed under old system.
Actually their interpretation is that the intro date of bill was May 15th and not May 21 as IV core has stated previously.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0530-endelman.shtm
And the interpretation of IV core and lawyers is the same. THE INTRODUCTION DATE of the bill is the cut-off date for pending or approved 140s to be allowed under old system.
Actually their interpretation is that the intro date of bill was May 15th and not May 21 as IV core has stated previously.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0530-endelman.shtm
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newbee7
07-07 08:36 PM
All officials and news coverage has talked about processing 60k visas in a month to avoid visas going waste. None clarifed to say the unused visas expire on 09/30 NOT 06/30.
We should try to highlight this fact to prove foul play.
We should try to highlight this fact to prove foul play.
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yabadaba
06-05 02:52 PM
Keep in mind that it is higly likely that DOS has changed its strategy of releasing visa numbers starting this year. Previously, they would release numbers per quarter. But this time, from all accounts it appears they have moved away from that model to improve USCIS efficiency. They may have released almost all of the annual quota by now.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3925.html
Check the Feb 2007 visa bulletin where they made EB2 India Unavailable as the annual quota was over. It came back again only because there was spillover from ROW.
Based on this, it is very unlikely that there will be much forward movement in July.
if they did what u say they did.. they violated the law. thats what gotcher is talking about. plus using up 140k visas without a substantial impact being seen on the forums is highly unlikely.
last year in june and july when they issued 60k visas there was huge spike in approvals and it was seen on the forums/on /IV/ immigration portal.
there has not been such an observed event this year. the reason eb2 india went to U was because they had used up the quota associated with per country caps and the category and quarter sub quotas.
what we are seeing now/ will see in this fiscal year will be spill over visas. where it occurs is anybody's guess.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3925.html
Check the Feb 2007 visa bulletin where they made EB2 India Unavailable as the annual quota was over. It came back again only because there was spillover from ROW.
Based on this, it is very unlikely that there will be much forward movement in July.
if they did what u say they did.. they violated the law. thats what gotcher is talking about. plus using up 140k visas without a substantial impact being seen on the forums is highly unlikely.
last year in june and july when they issued 60k visas there was huge spike in approvals and it was seen on the forums/on /IV/ immigration portal.
there has not been such an observed event this year. the reason eb2 india went to U was because they had used up the quota associated with per country caps and the category and quarter sub quotas.
what we are seeing now/ will see in this fiscal year will be spill over visas. where it occurs is anybody's guess.
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vz2kl
12-21 11:20 AM
Houston Indian consulate is horrible. Just horrible. They are rude and totally anti-customer friendly. It is unbelieveable how rude they can be. I have tried to contact him numerous times in my last 10 yrs in US and never was I able to get a reply to my emails/faxes or phone calls. I had trouble when i was an indian citizen and had to renew my passport, had trouble when I had to get tourist visa, had trouble when i had to get my indian passport cancelled and trouble when i had to get some misc. services for my daughter. They keep changing rules (example they changed the way they give tourist visas to people of indian origin, they changed the rules and prices to even just surrender the passport).Everytime my only option was to drive all the way to Houston and be at the mercy of their rudeness. I do not see any point in External ministry of india helping because they are equally worse. It sad and dealing with beauracracy is just a part. The whole problem is that they are not accountable. I dont even know whom to complain for the fact that I cannot even get somebody on the phone and have to drive all the way to Houston just to get a minor question answered.
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pappu
11-03 03:09 PM
There is no such law that specifies any duration one has to be employed by GC (or AC-21) employer. Period.
______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
That is exactly I was trying to tell people here. Each lawyer can interpret law and put on his website. But the fact is we have not seen a single case of citizenship denial or RFE where someone had changed the job immediately after getting a job. If there was any such case, send it across for us to see.
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Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
That is exactly I was trying to tell people here. Each lawyer can interpret law and put on his website. But the fact is we have not seen a single case of citizenship denial or RFE where someone had changed the job immediately after getting a job. If there was any such case, send it across for us to see.
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06-19 10:12 PM
Here is another part of story.
My PD was current back in 2004, this attorney/employer ignored my calls/emails from Oct to Dec 15. They filed my 485 during christmas week end, they screwed up something and USCIS rejected my application (thats what they say). Thanks to retrogession from Jan 2005. All my documents were ready by Oct. I would have had my EAD since 2005.
De javu, again I am being mandated to file thru same attorney. I don't have problem paying more money for a good attorney and good service.
I don't know if I am in a trap or something.
I think u r in a trap here. I recently talked to a HR of a desi company and he clearly told me his boss does not want to file for 485 for all eligible applicants and is working on strategies to fool his employees into prolonging things till dates retrogress.
U can choose ur lawyer, u don't have to let employer know u applying for 485 at all. Do not link ur lawyer and employer for any reason. Keep them both away. U already have 140 approved and u have nothing to lose.
Don't fall into ur employer - lawyer trap
My PD was current back in 2004, this attorney/employer ignored my calls/emails from Oct to Dec 15. They filed my 485 during christmas week end, they screwed up something and USCIS rejected my application (thats what they say). Thanks to retrogession from Jan 2005. All my documents were ready by Oct. I would have had my EAD since 2005.
De javu, again I am being mandated to file thru same attorney. I don't have problem paying more money for a good attorney and good service.
I don't know if I am in a trap or something.
I think u r in a trap here. I recently talked to a HR of a desi company and he clearly told me his boss does not want to file for 485 for all eligible applicants and is working on strategies to fool his employees into prolonging things till dates retrogress.
U can choose ur lawyer, u don't have to let employer know u applying for 485 at all. Do not link ur lawyer and employer for any reason. Keep them both away. U already have 140 approved and u have nothing to lose.
Don't fall into ur employer - lawyer trap
tonyHK12
04-29 03:23 PM
So ? What is it got to do with my comment or immigration?
The sentence was not directed at you specifically or your comment
The sentence was not directed at you specifically or your comment
nc14
11-30 04:41 PM
Mr. Brown,
That is why I have said "most" and not all. You are right I do not have any proof or data (but I am sure IV does) , try scanning any of the threads and you will see what I stated is very obvious.
If this post instigated you then you are not as thick skinned as some of your EB2 peers and hopefully will join the bandwagon of Donors soon.
My bitterness is the same for EB3's who do not do much other than posting on threads but I think (no proof again) there are more EB3 donors in the Donor threads than EB2's.
Agreed that I haven't contributed (yet) but that's a mighty big acquisition from your end on calling all of us EB2's free riders without any considerable data to prove it.
I think it's within our best interests to remain united until things are straightened up but I sure can understand your bitterness and hope the best for you too.
Peace!
That is why I have said "most" and not all. You are right I do not have any proof or data (but I am sure IV does) , try scanning any of the threads and you will see what I stated is very obvious.
If this post instigated you then you are not as thick skinned as some of your EB2 peers and hopefully will join the bandwagon of Donors soon.
My bitterness is the same for EB3's who do not do much other than posting on threads but I think (no proof again) there are more EB3 donors in the Donor threads than EB2's.
Agreed that I haven't contributed (yet) but that's a mighty big acquisition from your end on calling all of us EB2's free riders without any considerable data to prove it.
I think it's within our best interests to remain united until things are straightened up but I sure can understand your bitterness and hope the best for you too.
Peace!