StarSun
03-28 09:38 AM
This is the precise reason I am staying away from IV, people just dont show any civility in the forum discussions and starts name calling or shot down the people who ask questions.
If IV comes up with just one single GOAL of reducing the curent EB backlog for the restorgressed categories, people even from RoW countries will start participating in IV campaign and support IV's advocacy efforts in terms of their donations and volunteering for IV.
Reducing the current EB backlog will help everyone.
If every member decided to be respectful of each other (even when some one is not), then civility would not be a problem.
However, that is not the case. Members sometimes take things personally and expect IV to micromanage the forums. In the current situation this is not possible.
1. IV is asking money for advocacy efforts and we are unable to raise the money we set out. The money goes directly to the advocacy.
2. IV can do the micro managing, then we need to raise more money - to pay for the people - which means members have to pay more money regularly to pay consistently for the people working and for the year round advocacy.
3. IV is doing the good work (if I may say so). I wrote earlier, that if any member had a question on IV and its workings, all they have to do is call up - you will find out about what we do directly from us. But I am yet to hear a phone ring on that reason. You can make up your mind on to support us or not.
4. Holding every member's word as that of IV is unfair and unrealistic. Please refrain from it.
Again, if we decide to be civil to each other, we solve this problem. That is an individual choice - that each one you (and us) have to take.
Debate about a problem and try to find a solution. But asking people to convince anyone of anything on open forums is not realistic. If members are so inclined to believe in a cause, they will find ways to learn about it and work on it.
Volunteers of this organization are just like you. With jobs, families, financial constraints.......
You - every member and not directed at any one particular member.
IV needs more dedicated volunteers or more consistent donor members to get what members are asking for. Each member, please decide what you would like to do - help IV regularly and be civil or pay money so that IV can get the work done. The choice is yours.
We work with what we have.
If IV comes up with just one single GOAL of reducing the curent EB backlog for the restorgressed categories, people even from RoW countries will start participating in IV campaign and support IV's advocacy efforts in terms of their donations and volunteering for IV.
Reducing the current EB backlog will help everyone.
If every member decided to be respectful of each other (even when some one is not), then civility would not be a problem.
However, that is not the case. Members sometimes take things personally and expect IV to micromanage the forums. In the current situation this is not possible.
1. IV is asking money for advocacy efforts and we are unable to raise the money we set out. The money goes directly to the advocacy.
2. IV can do the micro managing, then we need to raise more money - to pay for the people - which means members have to pay more money regularly to pay consistently for the people working and for the year round advocacy.
3. IV is doing the good work (if I may say so). I wrote earlier, that if any member had a question on IV and its workings, all they have to do is call up - you will find out about what we do directly from us. But I am yet to hear a phone ring on that reason. You can make up your mind on to support us or not.
4. Holding every member's word as that of IV is unfair and unrealistic. Please refrain from it.
Again, if we decide to be civil to each other, we solve this problem. That is an individual choice - that each one you (and us) have to take.
Debate about a problem and try to find a solution. But asking people to convince anyone of anything on open forums is not realistic. If members are so inclined to believe in a cause, they will find ways to learn about it and work on it.
Volunteers of this organization are just like you. With jobs, families, financial constraints.......
You - every member and not directed at any one particular member.
IV needs more dedicated volunteers or more consistent donor members to get what members are asking for. Each member, please decide what you would like to do - help IV regularly and be civil or pay money so that IV can get the work done. The choice is yours.
We work with what we have.
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chi_shark
02-26 12:32 PM
without the story behind those charts..its is as good as a tissue paper.
typical baniya mentality..u want to hoard the wealth ..not share it..;-)
i am not baniya... in fact i lament the fact that i am not a baniya... i am a pure bred brahmin with high education, my entire family is highly educated till my family tree can be traced... they are all people who did noble things for God, kings etc... but i am aspiring to be a big time baniya... this last century and present time is a capitalist period... baniyas rock! they rule! if i had wealth, i would never share it... i will simply find ways to make other people slightly happy so that they keep buying my products/services... hail baniyaism
typical baniya mentality..u want to hoard the wealth ..not share it..;-)
i am not baniya... in fact i lament the fact that i am not a baniya... i am a pure bred brahmin with high education, my entire family is highly educated till my family tree can be traced... they are all people who did noble things for God, kings etc... but i am aspiring to be a big time baniya... this last century and present time is a capitalist period... baniyas rock! they rule! if i had wealth, i would never share it... i will simply find ways to make other people slightly happy so that they keep buying my products/services... hail baniyaism
gc28262
07-14 08:15 AM
There isn't much to be calculated for EB3. With spillover practically non-existent for EB3, we can easily calculate our wait times from pending inventory data published by USCIS.
The only positive development is that 245(i) cases that has been eating into EB3 quota is done with. So dates are no longer stuck at april 2001. We should see a slow but steady movement. Unless some spillover happens once EB2 has become current/close to current, I don't see much hope without legislation.
For those folks who think of not participating, consider these facts. Aman Kapoor and other IV core folks who already got their GCs are still working for our cause. There are lot of EB2 members among IV volunteers who work for this cause. We shouldn't just think of this as our personal issue. Rather we should consider this an issue for the entire EB community and work to resolve it.
The only positive development is that 245(i) cases that has been eating into EB3 quota is done with. So dates are no longer stuck at april 2001. We should see a slow but steady movement. Unless some spillover happens once EB2 has become current/close to current, I don't see much hope without legislation.
For those folks who think of not participating, consider these facts. Aman Kapoor and other IV core folks who already got their GCs are still working for our cause. There are lot of EB2 members among IV volunteers who work for this cause. We shouldn't just think of this as our personal issue. Rather we should consider this an issue for the entire EB community and work to resolve it.
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spicy_guy
07-14 04:50 PM
I understand that. However, apart from canvassing the support for CIR by writing to senators, lawmakers, in what capacity can IV influence USCIS to take up EB-3 cause?
Even if IV has intentions to ameliorate our pain, is it truly capable to influence the agency to do something for only one specific category ? At a micro-level, we EB-3 need to do something about changing our situation ourselves, lest we stand in the filthy excreta for eons. :mad:
I truly believe, though IV's efforts can impact a little bit, they have to join other organizations to strengthen the efforts and results.
Even if IV has intentions to ameliorate our pain, is it truly capable to influence the agency to do something for only one specific category ? At a micro-level, we EB-3 need to do something about changing our situation ourselves, lest we stand in the filthy excreta for eons. :mad:
I truly believe, though IV's efforts can impact a little bit, they have to join other organizations to strengthen the efforts and results.
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shubhn
11-13 05:32 PM
I sent my passport for renewal on Nov 9th, 2007 to Houston.
I have to visit India in Jan. I went by the time lines listed on the website and hope they it back to me within 2-3 weeks.
I requested in a detailed letter to them if I should bump the application up to an emergency. Hope to get a response back.
( I know I might be hoping for too much here. I should have applied well in advance. )
roseball, vallabhu
Please post updates when you have any more news.
Thanks,
shubhn
I have to visit India in Jan. I went by the time lines listed on the website and hope they it back to me within 2-3 weeks.
I requested in a detailed letter to them if I should bump the application up to an emergency. Hope to get a response back.
( I know I might be hoping for too much here. I should have applied well in advance. )
roseball, vallabhu
Please post updates when you have any more news.
Thanks,
shubhn
ChampU2008
10-27 11:30 AM
Good question.
The first point is illegals have to be paid at american laborer wages. They are currently dragging down labor wages. if the wage is monitored like H1b and set by the govt, enough american citizens of the 15 million unemployed, will take these jobs and illegals will have to leave.
Most people may not know, there are millions of American farmers, roofers, etc, who can't find a job because of illegals. We compete with americans at the same salary and with the disadvantage of visa overhead.
Not enough money? This is a big misconception and false statement thrown out by supporters of illegals. here are a few numbers thrown quickly:
a) It costs 1.5 billion dollars a year to put one armed soldier on every 100 yards of the border. Employment for 30,000 in the army.
b) it costs about 1 billion to deport 1 million illegals by plane. Do this for 2 years and enough will leave on their own.
These costs are trivial compared to a 2 Trillion annual budget and b) is a one time cost if we have a). Billions will be saved in welfare, housing, food stamps, education.
protecting the border is as important as fighting wars, which have already cost 100s of billions, if not more.
Will talk about H4 later, but the motto has always been - 'best person for the job' at legitimate American wages.
Mass deportations will NEVER happen. Its too damn expensive and a lot of moral issues come into the equation.
I agree that border security should be the first step before any sort of legislative relief is discussed for Illegal Immigration. There were 3.5 million illegal aliens in 1986 when amnesty was passed. Today the number is 12 million+.
While the border can never be made tamper proof, increased surveillance, smarter use of technology to prevent identity theft can make it difficult for anyone wanting to enter the US illegally and find work, here. That would reduce the incentive to illegally migrate here.
I am more optimistic for something positive to happen with Republicans at the helm than the Democrats coz to take a positive step, you have to be clear on your position. With an unprecedented majority, the Dems could not accomplish anything with regards to Immigration. All they came up with phony legislations, just to keep the carrot dangling. If they were one bit serious about tackling this issue, they would have started to work on the bill in Congress introduced by Guitierrez, last year instead of blowing hot air with a "Schumer - Graham" bill and a "Menendez" bill at the eleventh hour.
The first point is illegals have to be paid at american laborer wages. They are currently dragging down labor wages. if the wage is monitored like H1b and set by the govt, enough american citizens of the 15 million unemployed, will take these jobs and illegals will have to leave.
Most people may not know, there are millions of American farmers, roofers, etc, who can't find a job because of illegals. We compete with americans at the same salary and with the disadvantage of visa overhead.
Not enough money? This is a big misconception and false statement thrown out by supporters of illegals. here are a few numbers thrown quickly:
a) It costs 1.5 billion dollars a year to put one armed soldier on every 100 yards of the border. Employment for 30,000 in the army.
b) it costs about 1 billion to deport 1 million illegals by plane. Do this for 2 years and enough will leave on their own.
These costs are trivial compared to a 2 Trillion annual budget and b) is a one time cost if we have a). Billions will be saved in welfare, housing, food stamps, education.
protecting the border is as important as fighting wars, which have already cost 100s of billions, if not more.
Will talk about H4 later, but the motto has always been - 'best person for the job' at legitimate American wages.
Mass deportations will NEVER happen. Its too damn expensive and a lot of moral issues come into the equation.
I agree that border security should be the first step before any sort of legislative relief is discussed for Illegal Immigration. There were 3.5 million illegal aliens in 1986 when amnesty was passed. Today the number is 12 million+.
While the border can never be made tamper proof, increased surveillance, smarter use of technology to prevent identity theft can make it difficult for anyone wanting to enter the US illegally and find work, here. That would reduce the incentive to illegally migrate here.
I am more optimistic for something positive to happen with Republicans at the helm than the Democrats coz to take a positive step, you have to be clear on your position. With an unprecedented majority, the Dems could not accomplish anything with regards to Immigration. All they came up with phony legislations, just to keep the carrot dangling. If they were one bit serious about tackling this issue, they would have started to work on the bill in Congress introduced by Guitierrez, last year instead of blowing hot air with a "Schumer - Graham" bill and a "Menendez" bill at the eleventh hour.
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Munna Bhai
10-25 08:09 AM
Having spoken with several congressional aids I can say that such issues are well received. The specific issue that I have raised (it does not affect me) is examples of people leaving USA and having to explain to their US born children why mummy and daddy are not welcome in the USA, and thus why they have to grow up in a foreign country.
I have also given examples of one sibling being born in USA and other aging out.
However, I have only raised this where law makers are known to be sympathetic to family immigration, e.g. support DREAM.
I think that the best we can do is:
Get wait times down (and reduce impact of this).
Use this as an argument with those who support family based immigration (and may even be hostile to EB otherwise).
If we have an opportunity to address this as part of other EB legislation we can.
It is certainly not forgotten by me.
I do think that it would be helpful to have a list of people in IV with this problem (with ages of all children plus relevant dates). For the moment I'm too busy to organize this (busy with IV work -- like 4am bed times).
More active help (not just forum discussion) with IV is always welcome, so you are welcome to step up and help (e.g. compiling a list of such members etc.). Politics is personal so being able to present personal cases is helpful.
Well said Mark, " Politics is personal so being able to present personal cases is helpful"
Let's fight together.
I have also given examples of one sibling being born in USA and other aging out.
However, I have only raised this where law makers are known to be sympathetic to family immigration, e.g. support DREAM.
I think that the best we can do is:
Get wait times down (and reduce impact of this).
Use this as an argument with those who support family based immigration (and may even be hostile to EB otherwise).
If we have an opportunity to address this as part of other EB legislation we can.
It is certainly not forgotten by me.
I do think that it would be helpful to have a list of people in IV with this problem (with ages of all children plus relevant dates). For the moment I'm too busy to organize this (busy with IV work -- like 4am bed times).
More active help (not just forum discussion) with IV is always welcome, so you are welcome to step up and help (e.g. compiling a list of such members etc.). Politics is personal so being able to present personal cases is helpful.
Well said Mark, " Politics is personal so being able to present personal cases is helpful"
Let's fight together.
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dupedinjuly
07-19 02:25 PM
And pretty big boat which will move very slowly.....
July 2nd all will be in same boat.
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July 2nd all will be in same boat.
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Contributed $260 so far
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gupta432
05-10 11:24 AM
BTW, my case was with NSC if anybody cares..
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santb1975
04-15 06:57 PM
Glad to see you back. Feels great to see a Nor. Cal member here
We have 16 more weeks for the SF event. That is plenty. We need you to make this successful
Great initiative and kudos to NolaIndian for making it happen!
I love to go for long walks, so count me in for that part! Not sure if I can commit myself to the SF event... need some more time to make up my mind on this one!
We have 16 more weeks for the SF event. That is plenty. We need you to make this successful
Great initiative and kudos to NolaIndian for making it happen!
I love to go for long walks, so count me in for that part! Not sure if I can commit myself to the SF event... need some more time to make up my mind on this one!
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pappu
03-21 02:55 PM
Advocacy day reception is on Tuesday 5:30 PM to 8 PM in Rayburn building.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-04 10:44 AM
No approvals today or what?
I had to search to find this thread.
What is going on?
I had to search to find this thread.
What is going on?
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SBAV
05-10 11:20 PM
Just received SMS/email that my application is approved (PD June 23, 2006, NSC)
Best luck to all, I am sure you will get approval email/SMS soon.
Best luck to all, I am sure you will get approval email/SMS soon.
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manderson
03-17 03:56 PM
u can post it as an attachment on immigrationportal website and post that link here
ex: http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showpost.php?p=1877058&postcount=1
I'm sorry, I tried to add the file as an attachment to the post but it won't work.
If you know of a different way to post the file here let me know.
ex: http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showpost.php?p=1877058&postcount=1
I'm sorry, I tried to add the file as an attachment to the post but it won't work.
If you know of a different way to post the file here let me know.
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actaccord
02-22 06:18 AM
more participation if we woke up inactive members. Please send the advocacy news letter to all members to get more participation.
Members from the mid western states - your participation is crucial in the advocacy efforts.
OH, IN, IL, TN, KY, MO, AR, KS, OK
It is very difficult to get appointments from legislative offices if no one from their constituency will be attending the meeting.
The DC Advocacy effort is for YOUR green card. Please take the time to talk to your employers now and get the required 2 days off to participate in the event.
Members from the mid western states - your participation is crucial in the advocacy efforts.
OH, IN, IL, TN, KY, MO, AR, KS, OK
It is very difficult to get appointments from legislative offices if no one from their constituency will be attending the meeting.
The DC Advocacy effort is for YOUR green card. Please take the time to talk to your employers now and get the required 2 days off to participate in the event.
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Michael chertoff
05-03 04:27 PM
i got an approval email for me and my wife last night.
PD: June 29, 2006
Texas Service Center
Congratulations my friend, enjoy your freedom. Pray for us too.
MC
PD: June 29, 2006
Texas Service Center
Congratulations my friend, enjoy your freedom. Pray for us too.
MC
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akred
04-14 12:56 AM
Old thread on the same subject.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1454
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1454
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Michael chertoff
08-02 10:54 AM
Why do we need a new thread for this. Just continue on to the "2010 last quarter approvals" thread....keeps things organized and simple for everyone to follow
That became a donor forum. Poor people like me can not view that thread.
Thanks
MC
That became a donor forum. Poor people like me can not view that thread.
Thanks
MC
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Saralayar
07-13 08:18 PM
Item 4 must be dropped. There is this major misconception about Indians being able to afford housing more than others - No! HUD shows that compared to other communities only 4% of Indian immigrants own a home.
Sometime back some other person on the forum wanted USCIS to give GCs if candidate buys a home - what a foolish idea. He thought it would help the economy. How? Buy if you can't afford and then go into foreclosure?
Rest of the points are fine except I don't think involving social security is this is going to fly! Too sensitive a topic.
Yours is misconception. How can you decide that this is only for Indians?
Sometime back some other person on the forum wanted USCIS to give GCs if candidate buys a home - what a foolish idea. He thought it would help the economy. How? Buy if you can't afford and then go into foreclosure?
Rest of the points are fine except I don't think involving social security is this is going to fly! Too sensitive a topic.
Yours is misconception. How can you decide that this is only for Indians?
Ram_C
11-14 01:08 PM
any experience from Indain Embassy at SFO ?? planning to mail the application from Los Angeles
willwin
10-18 05:00 PM
Reading from this thread and few other, it is confirmed that in most cases, even if PD is current for a 485 filer, USCIS may not adjudicate those cases unless the processing time is reached. (There are few lucky applicants with PD 2005 and filed 485 after July 2nd and have already received their GC - but that is very few).
And most centers, they are processing Dec 2006 485 applications - a backlog of 10 months.
So, assuming that it may take same 10 months to process 485 filed in July - that is May 2008!!
With this, what are the chances of DOS making PD current for all EB categories again next June? They will do this to use all the VISA numbers for FY2008.
Or, if they don't want to repeat the confusions that happened in July 2007, to what dates will the PDs move (in June/July 2008)? Atleast to 2006?
And most centers, they are processing Dec 2006 485 applications - a backlog of 10 months.
So, assuming that it may take same 10 months to process 485 filed in July - that is May 2008!!
With this, what are the chances of DOS making PD current for all EB categories again next June? They will do this to use all the VISA numbers for FY2008.
Or, if they don't want to repeat the confusions that happened in July 2007, to what dates will the PDs move (in June/July 2008)? Atleast to 2006?